Kids opinions needed...

[Pasogirlz]

The adults would like to know your thoughts on this situation that happened w/a forum member's teenaged daughter. Please read thru the thread and tell us what you think of the situation.

1. do you think what the daughter did was a "big deal?" Why?
2. do you think what the adult did was a "big deal?" Why?
3. what do you think the punishment should be for something like this?
4. do you think appyday handled the situation fairly?
5. what do you think the punishment would be at YOUR house for somethingl like this?
6. do you have any insight you can give us from the daughters point of view that maybe we adults didn't think of?

Thanks for your participation in this thread, and please do be honest. ;-)
Also be sure to reply to THIS thread and not the original. Thanks.

http://www.americanpasofinos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4359&start=0

[Blameitonbrio]

Lori, those are very good questions! I look forward to seeing what "our" kids have to say.

[appyday]

Very well done..I will let daughter read this when we are done..

[hanita]

I think that daughter should have taken into consideration that her mothers wishes were in her best intrests and she should have listened. I also think that mother is going to have to let her daughter make her own mistakes. I know it is hard to let her make mistakes , but don't go behind her and check up on her it will only make her feel animosity to you and make her want to disobey you more. Yes it was wrong for her to disobey you and it was even more wrong for the other mother to lie for her, if you ask me that is not a healthy freindship and that girls mother has some serious issues to think that it was okay to lie to you!!!!!! hope this helps...

[Pasogirlz]

How bout telling us....
3. what do you think the punishment should be for something like this?
4. do you think appyday handled the situation fairly?
5. what do you think the punishment would be at YOUR house for somethingl like this?
6. do you have any insight you can give us from the daughters point of view that maybe we adults didn't think of?
Thanks. :hello

[~ll*michelle*ll~]

1. do you think what the daughter did was a "big deal?" Why?
2. do you think what the adult did was a "big deal?" Why?
3. what do you think the punishment should be for something like this?
4. do you think appyday handled the situation fairly?
5. what do you think the punishment would be at YOUR house for somethingl like this?
6. do you have any insight you can give us from the daughters point of view that maybe we adults didn't think of?


1. no i do not think what she did was a big deal i dont kno if it is jus me but kids lie all the time even for something as small as did u feed the dog or some thing i dont kno its just so normal for kids to lie now .
2. no i do not think what the parent did was a big deal i don kno if its just me but parents do these things all the time especially now a days
3. i dont kno i guess no car for like 1 or 2 weeks
4. again i dont kno how life is up there appyday ur probably one of the moms that cares for her child deeply and wants her to be safe but down here you see these things happen everyday and parents treat it normally it depends how the family is in morals about not lieing or family matters
5. my mom would have probably let me take my friend or something my mom is very understanding and trusts me so i have no limits b/c i have never stepped out of line with something like that.
6. kids are growing and are CHANGING and dont realize what is so wrong with what they are doing and they just wanna live life to its fullest !! we dont think about the consequences or what might happen if i do this or what might happen if i do this ??? (well at least i dont )

appyday im not saying that the way u reacted is wrong or ne thing im jus replying with how i was brought up and how most things are down here in miami

[~ll*michelle*ll~]

ooooo yea i forgot one very important thing for #6 when u tell a kid no u cant do this or im not letting you do this or just telling her not to do something kids will try their hardest to actually do what u r not letting them do . so if u tell them no u cant go to the party or w/e they WILL find a way to get to that party well thats it i guess .......

[Pasogirlz]

Michelle- are you saying we are liberal down here in Miami? :shock: :lol:

[hanita]

Michelle I do agree with the fact that it is all about how your parents raise you, but I have to ask are you an only child...exactly things are a lot different when you have brothers and sisters you get away with alot less, I have to diss agree with the part about kids and adults lieing that is not normal if that adult was a responsible parent she would have done what appyday asked her and called as soon as the girls came home. In my house, I don't think I would disobey my mom because due to recent circumstances I have learned it is just better to tell the truth and do what she says, but probably I wouldn't see my car my licence or my friends for a good 6 weeks maybe by that time I would value the importance and the privilege of being able to drive a little more. I think appyday was being very fair in what she did, and I would watch who my daughter hangs out with a little closer.

[Pasogirlz]

hanita....how did you guess our little Michelle is an ONLY child? :lol:

[hanita]

because an only child is no offense now "spoiled" so they expect to be able to do whatever they want to...Not that michelle is spoiled, but I think it is just that way in general. I was an only child for five years and when my sis was born it was a rude awakening , but I grew out of it...I guess its all about what your parents decide to do with you! :D

Yes we are Lori :D I love Miami <3

No offence but my parents wouldnt give a hoot in the first place cause its not against the law to drive your friends around

I guess the punishment wasnt a big deal. Making us do everything we hate and extending the punishment is what gets to us :lol: Well atleast me.

[Pasogirlz]

Ok Nito, but let's say...your parents told you NOT to drive the golf cart down the street....but you did it anyway while they weren't home and the neighbor told on you....what would your punishment be like? ;-)

thats hard to imagine lol since my parents let me go anywhere on it...

they'll have a hissy fit and um make me clean the yard and if i dont do that they wont let me go out with friends on the weekend which im smarter than that :D

I guess im no help im an old teenager with rights already

edited to add that IF i did drive which they dont let me cause im the devils nightmare. umm if i did that I would be in deep turd and they wont trust me meaning they'll take the car away from me. although I am honest with everyone.

[Pasogirlz]

Nito- How come you don't have your license yet?

No comment :lol: :twisted:

[Brigitte]

1. do you think what the daughter did was a "big deal?" Why? It's not SUCH a big deal, but she did disobey and lie, and that's not good. But she should have listened to her mother
2. do you think what the adult did was a "big deal?" Why? Nope, she had to get punished for what she did
3. what do you think the punishment should be for something like this? No car for a week or something
4. do you think appyday handled the situation fairly? Yep she did a good job
5. what do you think the punishment would be at YOUR house for somethingl like this? Well they wouldn't care who I drive around as long as I drive responsibly, but if they told me NOT to use the car and I did..I dunno they'd yell or something
6. do you have any insight you can give us from the daughters point of view that maybe we adults didn't think of? She probably was thinking "whatever I'll just drop her off at home no biggie"[/b]

[~ll*michelle*ll~]

yes lori that is EXACTLY what i am saying and i must say that i LOVE miami for it !!!!!!!!!!

HEY LORI !!!!!!!!!!!! thats not very nice !!!!! :cry: lol :D im just kidding
hanita yes i am an onlii child and yes i am spoiled i am indeed a spoiled brat !!! :oops: i cannot deny it although since both my parents are colombian they please me as long as i give back to them in my grades . and sometimes i do NOT get away with everything that i want to do then i get pi$$ed off :evil: so then they make it up to me and everything is back to normal :D . it is how ive been brought up and it is how it will always be as long as im getting good grades and "behaving" :P
i am mostly spoiled b/c i am a daddy's little grl and b/c my mom is an alcagueta as u say in spanish and they like to make me happy :D and will do anything to make me happy. i have never been punished and i will probably never get punished !!!!!! as long as i dont mess ^ !!!! which will probably happen very soon !!! :D :twisted: lol jk jk

[hanita]

much luv michelle you are a true spoiled gangsta!!

[Brigitte]

Michelle- I RARELY get in trouble with my parents, they threathen allright, but that's about it. Lol, my mom would be telling me that I can't do this I can't do that but in the end she lets me do what I want anyway. And just like you when I don't get my way, I get p*ssed off :lol:

[~ll*michelle*ll~]

LOL!!!!!! thx hanita !! :D
brigitte: yea i kno i dunno if it runs in the latinos (parents)(not a diss b/c i am a latina and PROUD....lol) but all they do is threaten and in the end they end up lettin u do w/e u want !! i LOVE it !!!!! lol yea i kno dont u jus hate it when u dont get ur way even if its jus a small thing u kno ???......lol !!!!!! :D

[hanita]

Yeah I know how that goes my mom is Colombian so I can get away with some things, but my daddy is american so I do get in trouble sometimes!

[appyday]

Let me say she is on her provisional licence..she has only had it 3 weeks..she is not allowed (against the law and the vehicle insurance does not cover) until she gets a regular licence...another 4 months...She can not legally have another teenager in the car..

:shock:

You let her drive ALONE? My mom wouldnt let me see the light of day if that happend

[El Indio Elegante]

1. do you think what the daughter did was a "big deal?" Actually no. I wouldn't do something like that but i know that most ppl at my school will do something like that so it is very common
2. do you think what the adult did was a "big deal?" Why? Yes i do. My dad won't tell my mom some things but they aren't anything major like someone stripped the paint off of one of my drumsticks at school and i know my mom would be mad if she found out so i told him to keep quite about it and he is. but Wut the girls mother did was not parent like. It could of resulted in something secret
3. what do you think the punishment should be for something like this?don't let her drive at all for 6 months at the minimum
4. do you think appyday handled the situation fairly? yes i do
5. what do you think the punishment would be at YOUR house for somethingl like this? no driving until i'm out of the house completely and no phone or electronics
6. do you have any insight you can give us from the daughters point of view that maybe we adults didn't think of? If the daughter had no other ride home i can understand. I know wut it feels like to be stranded somewhere

[Paso Diva]

I agree with Hanita if I lied to my mom or dad i would have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.Because I was raised not to lie.But if I was planning a suprise or something I would have to lie if they asked me a qustion.

[~ll*michelle*ll~]

how can u hav that feeling in ur stomach ????
lieing is like breathing !!!!!! well to most ppl it is
well i dunno i dont get that feeling ne more cuz i dunno i just dont ....lol
well ne wayz the onlii thing that i feel is bein afraid of gettin caught in the lie n then gettin in trouble .............yea thats it the rest is a breeze... :twisted: lol jk jk

[Pasogirlz]

how can u hav that feeling in ur stomach ????
lieing is like breathing !!!!!! well to most ppl it is
well i dunno i dont get that feeling ne more cuz i dunno i just dont ....lol
well ne wayz the onlii thing that i feel is bein afraid of gettin caught in the lie n then gettin in trouble .............yea thats it the rest is a breeze... :twisted: lol jk jk
Michelle my sweet angel...http://bestsmileys.com/innocent/1.gif

You need a good spanking.
Are you telling me that you don't have that little voice in your head that tells you when something is wrong? that your doing? Or you have the voice...you just don't like to listen to it?

*turns Michelle over her knee and spanks her hiney good. :twisted:

[~ll*michelle*ll~]

yes lori the little voice in my head has its mouth duck taped & is tied to a chair that has dry cement around the legs and thrown into the deep blue sea !!!!!!!! lol jk jk
well i do hav that lil voice i just ignore it A LOT !!!!!!!!!! lol :D
hey if im listenin to a lil voice that doesnt exist when am i gonna hav some fun ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

o yea
my parents dont spank me ne more cuz they kno it doesnt hurt my buns of steel!!!!!!!!!!! lmao !!!!!!!!! lol well w/e they jus like shun me or something (not pleasant) lol well like yea w/e

everything else i AM a little sweet daddys grl angel :twisted: oops i mean http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c232/luvyalots330/1.gif LOL

[motorgypsy]

Hi Guys!
Since I'm a mod in here I guess I should introduce myself (ourselves actually). We're the motorgypsies because we're famous for just jumping in the car and going somewhere - with or without our horses. We have 14 of them. Two minis, one Florida Cracker gelding and eleven paso finos. Yes we do show but mostly allbreed and speed shows and we do hunter pace and endurnance LD rides. We're geezers so that just makes us old teens.

One point about the situation in this thread is that the young lady broke the law and could have gotten her mom in a lot of trouble. moms don't like that at all. If she had gotten in a wreck her mom could have been sued and ended up having to pay a huge price for auto insurance. Guess who wouldn't be driving until they could pay their own insurance????

Michelle we lived in Cali Colombia, taught there for two years and yes the kids are spoiled rotten but are very likeable. The cultures allows for a lot more lying and cheating and stealing even from your friends than most of the US cultures. For example the kids thought it was OK to help a friend on a test if they were really having trouble. I used to have to make out five different tests to keep kids from copying each other. They also made up terrible lies to this one teacher. One of the girls told him she was in love with him and really had him believing her. I didn't really believe a word any of them said except for the ones I knew were truthful. A friend that was a guest in our home stole a watch and several other things and was caught with them later. He even stole a St. Christoper medal. That is really low.

We really loved the country and the people but it was very difficult dealing with people who collectively lied. Yes there were people who were truthful but you never knew who they were until you gotto know them. For example if you asked someone directions if they didn't know the way they would make something up because it was embarrassing to them to not know the way and you would get terribly lost so you ended up having to ask several people for directions until you got several who told you the same thing.

On the good side the people were very friendly and helpful and very social and would give you the shirt off their backs. The entire time we were there we never had anyone that was nasty to us because we were from the US. We were out all the time when we lived there, rode the buses, took taxis and walked everywhere. When we got back to the US we felt like we lived in a bubble it was so lonely. We really miss it.

Actually by the time the kids reached high school they were pretty well disciplined and dependable (these were very rich to moderately rich kids for the most part) but you had to make the rules very clear and make sure they were followed. They also thought just about anyone could be paid to do things like give you a better place in line or get a better seat at a game or something like that. It's true in the US somewhat but it was rampant there. It was considered a tip "for better service", not a bribe.

Sorry this is a bit wordy but thought I'd pipe in here and make myself (ourselves) known.

[Got Brio?]

I have only 1 thing to say....If I did that(not that I can drive yet) my mom would skin me alive and stomp me into a mudhole. Maybe not that harsh but I'd be taken off a horse for a long time.
I've learned that it's best to do what your parents say,because in the end you get their trust. Oh yeah you wont get in trouble with the law.

[Blameitonbrio]

Now, I have to defend myself...

I have NEVER stomped a mudhole into either of my children, but I frequently threaten to do so. If I am really angry, I will threaten to stomp a mudhole into them and then stomp it dry. I learned these charming parenting methods from my mother!

[riomyfriend]

1. do you think what the daughter did was a "big deal?" Why?
2. do you think what the adult did was a "big deal?" Why?
3. what do you think the punishment should be for something like this?
4. do you think appyday handled the situation fairly?
5. what do you think the punishment would be at YOUR house for somethingl like this?
6. do you have any insight you can give us from the daughters point of view that maybe we adults didn't think of?


1. yes the Daughter should have listened and not have done it, but i should be pointing fingure i too have done stupid stuff.
2. YES, i totally think this is a big deal the adult should not have lied. I dont think parents and other adults should not lie, because some kids will look at that and copy the action.
3. well i couldnt say for sure what it would be but some thing should happen
4 yes
5. car taken away and zero trust

[Pasogirlz]

I have only 1 thing to say....If I did that(not that I can drive yet) my mom would skin me alive and stomp me into a mudhole. Maybe not that harsh but I'd be taken off a horse for a long time.
I've learned that it's best to do what your parents say,because in the end you get their trust. Oh yeah you wont get in trouble with the law.

Now, I have to defend myself...

I have NEVER stomped a mudhole into either of my children, but I frequently threaten to do so. If I am really angry, I will threaten to stomp a mudhole into them and then stomp it dry. I learned these charming parenting methods from my mother!

It's ok Jeany, ;-) We all figured she was just saying that cuz she knew you were reading this too. hehe :lol: [/quote]