Need your guys help, UPDATED PG2! not paso related..

[PASOFAN]

Ok, this is about a co-worker..

We went to lunch today. Nice place she chose, she drove ect. We get there eat have a wonderful lunch! She invited me to this new place to try, it was a nice asian place..anyway...

We parked in the parking lot next to the block where the resteraunt was. We go in and sit, i read on the menu: "DO NOT PARK" ect about a parking lot, I showed it to her and asked if that was were we had parked, it did say we would be towed.. ect... She insited no no, I park there all the time when I eat here ect..

Anyway on our way out we had a boot on her car!! $100 fine! The guy pulled up w/in minutes, he had been watching us ect. I had to pay the fine because she had no cash or credit card and I was the only one w/a CC..

Long story short, she said she would pay me back tomorrow-payday- and a bonus day..

I should not feel guilty about her paying the whole fine right? I mean I told her about the warnning ect, she drove ect..

What do ya think?

I do feel bad, but it was her choice to ignore the warning...

[DebbieS]

Jen, don't feel guilty. She drove, she parked there, she pays the fine. Hopefully, she does pay you back.

[stella]

I agree with Debbie- if you made a point of showing her the warning, and SHE chose to ignore the warning, then it is ENTIRELY her fault, and she is LUCKY that you had the credit card, to pay the fine!
After all, if you hadnt been so generous to trust her til payday, she would ALSO be paying towing fees! So, you've saved her some $$$, as well as shown trust, so you should feel good, and she should feel lucky to have a friend like you!

[Heidi]

If you had read the warnings and NOT advised her about them, THEN you could feel guilty...

...but you did read the parking warnings and alerted her to them.

It was her choice to not move her car and that is why she got the boot/fine. Ultimately, she had total control over the vehicle (you had none) and should therefore have no responsibility. You were a very good friend for offering to pay the fine/boot removal with your credit card to avoid towing fees. That absolves you of any guilt you should be feeling.

If anything, co-worker is probably feeling guilty over you having to pay for the fine/boot removal!
Heidi

[PASOFAN]

Thanks guys! I feel better, just need to ask someone outside of the office becuase u know how office gossip goes..

I do feel fault free because #1 I showed her the warnning, #2 she drove ect... Your right Heidi I didnt have control of her auto...

I am a tad worried because she is having $$ issues, BUT it is a bonus payday for us so I KNOW she will have extra $$..... and he was just about to tow it too because it said 1hr and it was right at the 1hr mark, so that would have been $750!

ALSO, I tried to get her outta it w/the cop, I told him we didnt see the sign that said no parking as we came into the lot because cars blocked it, and I was really sweet ect, he said sorry. She didnt even try to talk her way outta it, she was just really mad and I think the cop thought she was rude..

Nice to get things off my chest. I feel bad because she also is having a bad day at work, she just found out she is preggy, and her hubby really yelled at her when she called to tell him about the ticket...

She hasnt said anything about me paying half or anything, but I know her well and she made the comment that "I made her drive ect. "
that comment was about our prior to leaving work to go. She wanted to bring her friend with and I told her my truck was full of horse tack in the back and I couldnt fit 2 people. So she said no prob I will drive ect, she has a new suv too, then at the last minute her friend said she couldnt come. So she drove anyway...

[appyday]

No worries mate you are right......................I would have busted out laughing and said...."see I told you about this" :lol:

[Brigitte]

You don't have to feel guilty, you warned her and all and even tried to get her out of it with the cop. You shouldn't feel guilty AT ALL.

[Kerry W]

Think of it this way....you're helping her to learn a valuable lesson..."rules apply to all". :lol: Don't feel bad. She should pay you back.

[PASOFAN]

Thanks u guys.

She is taking things pretty hard, cried for about 1hr when we got back.. She is pretty emotional at this moment, think her hubby is givin her a hard time.. Plus I knew her $$ issues are not well right now. But w/the bonus she should be ok..

I tried to cheer her up but she is pretty down...


I really appreciate you guys responding, I so love this board!! :D

[Minouri]

I wouldn't feel guilty at all.....but I certainly wouldn't worry about feeling guilty till she pays you back. Save your energy for potentially an entirely different emotion.

[Kerry W]

Just pregnant???? Emotional???? Natural! Hormones. :smile: She'll be okay...she knew what she was doing was wrong.

[Ginger]

When my money's tight, I don't eat out at nice restaurants.

[Boyd R]

If it is as you say it is her problem and not yours.

Now get this. I get home today and my front gate is closed. I get out to open and see hoof prints in the turf. Figured the horses got out and someone was good enough to put them back in. As I walk to the house the ground looks as if they had a really good time running and playing in the yard. As I walk up the steps to the back deck I notice everyone is where they should be except that 3 were locked in the back pasture. Someone had closed the gate on them. Or it is possible they did it themselves but rarely happens.
So out to feed I go and all but one feed can is dumped and emptied. And technicly of the 3 emptied as of this morning there was little in only one but it is now gone. As I approach I can see that It was not my horses out but we had to of had visitors today because they were shoed.
The owners did not leave a note or anything no offer to replace the eaten feed, and must have picked up all the poop before they left because the fork had been moved and not a single dropping in the yard. I am 99% sure whos they were and she is not a very friendly individual. When we first got Carlos he whent visiting one day as I was moving him from one pasture to the other. They had just resealed their asphault and wanted me to fix the hoofy prints he had left. Which I did without Question. The kicker was as I left she told me she would appreciate me putting locks on all my gates.

In the past 4 months I have caught her horses and returned them to her twice. Without as much as a thank you. Last week they got out and she chased them back home before I got down the drive and now again today.

And then there was the time that 2 horses showed up that we did not know. We asked them who they may belong to and she had no clue. We kept the horses for 3 days before the owners showed up. Turned out that they were on vacation and Mrs. Snell had offered to check up on them while they were gone.

SOME PEOPLE YOU WONDER HOW THEY LIVE WITH THEMSELVES.

[PASOFAN]

Yeah, boyd u got me beat!! Definatly she is a sly one your neighbor. I would walk right down there and ask if it was her horses who had a nice big meal on your dime.. IF she says yes, ask for the $$ and ask if she would kindly come over to fix the divits in your yard...

Did the people who were on vacation pay u for your care of their horses? Did you tell them you had asked this lady about the lost horses.. Yep she seems to be a dope..

But I would invest in gaits that lock just for my own peace of mind that they would be in...

Good luck w/that boyd!

This is becoming a good vent day..lol

ps: Ginger, the great lunch was only $5.50!! It was a steal, other wise I too prabably wouldnt have gone, I am trying to save some $$ myself, but I havent gone out in a long time.. SO that is my excuse for it..lol :D

[Boyd R]

No they did not either. The two of them ate to of the small wall hanging Mineral blocks the first day they were here. And they did not take kindly to me expressing my concerns about the diet of their horses and the hind end sores that one off them had.
They also commented that they figured she only offered to look in on them because they allways get out when they are out of town and end up at her place any way.

I hate locks though and have it to where we have to leave 2 gates open for the horses to get to the road. Plus the gates are hung to swing shut and self latch if someone forgets to shut. I even cuss myself at times for doing that. Have to find a block to hold it open as I drive through them.

[Heidi]

Maybe when she pays you back you could take her out to lunch. And drive. :D

I understand where her comment came from, even though I feel it was unkind, but you did NOT make her drive. If my vehicle was full of tack and could only seat two people (I drive a 2-seater anyways...) I also would have refused. Heck, we have a small SUV w/ only 4 seatbelts and I'll only carry 4 people. Period.

She really cannot blame anyone but herself in this situation.
I am CERTAIN, that if you drove your truck, parked and saw the notice in the restaurant that you would have moved your truck. Her fault for not heeding the warnings...and you cannot help her home-life or finances, that is her business.

I do hope she pays you back and there are no hard feelings about it. Very good of you to not question other people at work...office gossip travels faster than the speed of light!
Heidi

[Ginger]

$5.50 :shock: NO FAIR! Wendy's is the ONLY place around here an individual can eat for that much! Side salad, butter only baked potato, five nuggets and a regular (I REFUSE to drink DIET COKE, because it is the bane of the gastronome!) Coke.

Tonight's dinner's going to be steep- but hey- it's a wood floor and a live band... and I'm a dance-whore.... :roll:

[Minouri]

A friend of mine told me yesterday that her old barn owner took out a restraining order against her. I fell to the floor laughing......then I sympathized. You'd have to know this woman to know that there is absolutely no one less dangerous. She's this tiny little woman.

But she had an older horse that she was boarding. She was having trouble affording lessons and keeping her horse and her horse was never a good fit for her. She found him a new family. The new owners paid for boarding for the second half of January. The barn owner said she'd reimburse her. But did not. She gave the barn owner all of the medication for her horse (he has allergies that the new family knows about), plus all of her blankets and brushes. The barn owner never gave any of it to the new owner! Not even a brush!

So she started calling her. The woman denied receiving anything nor promising that she'd return any money. Next thing you know she has a letter stating that she's not allowed within a certain footage of the property.

I'll keep you posted on how she fares. I'd simply take the woman to small claims. But my friend sounded like she was disgusted enough to write the whole thing off. Amazing, though, huh. Who would think that a barn owner would keep old brushes and blankets.

Maybe it's a good thing she took out the restraining order against my friend. I'm not sure what even I would do if I drove by my old barn and saw a lying cheating barn owner's horse in a blanket meant for my horse.

Another reason I usually like horses more than people....lol

[PASOFAN]

She pd me back this morn!!! So relieved... No Q's asked she was nice about it. I said thank you and she said "no thank you" end of story!!

Thanks u guys!!!

PS: Ginger: This place was called SeaFood Palace, asian food! I am a major vietnamese fan! We had the lunch special: Honey Walnut shrimp, soup and fried rice. It was alot of food and great! We got 6-7 huge shrimp too! So yeah, braggin a bit, but I just love those cheap places!! Actually the lunch menu is cheap, not dinner, that same dish was $13 for dinner!!!

Bein in a big city sure has its benifits. but I cant wait to move the the country!! :D

[Heidi]

I'm glad that went well. I was afraid she'd get crabby and whiney.
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[Jane Hurl]

Me too, Heidi!

But all's well that ends well. Now the two of you can go out for lunch again one day ... as long as YOU drive.

As for the good, cheap lunches. Enjoy 'em while you have 'em, Jen. Country fare (at least up here in Canada) is just this side of awful. Always fried. Usually greasy. Noodles? In the chicken noodle soup. Vegetables? "Sure, lady, we've got fries. They're a vegetable." Nothing green, unless it's that particular shade of green caused by age! *grin*

[Ginger]

Mirna Quintana put us on to a Chinese place down near her. Green Dragon or something like that- Awesome. Tons of food for like two bucks.

[motorgypsy]

Are you sure it' isn't the Green Tea Chinese Restaurant Crystal? That one is near her and is really good and cheap!!! We live up the street from them - sortof - when we're in FL.

[Barbwire]

ALSO, I tried to get her outta it w/the cop, I told him we didnt see the sign that said no parking as we came into the lot because cars blocked it, and I was really sweet ect, he said sorry.

You got your money back, great! Too bad you are going to Hades for lying to a cop!

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[PASOFAN]

Acutally Barb I didnt lie about seeing the sign at the entrance of the lot, we didnt, but I later saw the warrning in the back of the menu at the restraunt..lol I just didnt tell him that. so that really isnt liein is it?lol

[Minouri]

Nice ending to that story :) glad to hear it.