Paso/Draft crosses?

[PASOFAN]

Does any one own one, seen one, ridden one? I am curiouse. My little sis and I love drafts but love the gaits.. I am curious to find out if the gait is presant... I guess it is all by chance but wondering if a certian draft maybe more likely to pick up the gait than others??

I truley love Freisians and percherons too..

If you have pics that would be fabulous!! :D

[Heidi]

Just butting in...but I feel that the drafts may not have enough speed-of-leg to maintain a gait? I think the Friesan may be able to, but I don't consider them full draft, more like a light ciarriage draft. Still, the idea of a gaited saddle draft DOES sound appealing!
Heidi

[Pasogirlz]

Sounds interesting. I think it would be a slo-mo gait, but comfy. :lol:

[Lynn]

I am not much into drafts but a freisian paso cross would be interesting.

[CarolU]

The first gaited horse I rode was a draft/TWH cross. He was awesome to ride and a love of a personality (like WC FIelds). I also know a man who bred his own line of pack animals, crossing Morgans with drafts. He wanted big horses that could carry hunters and gear and pack out elk and moose. He got big, gentle (occasionally gaited) horses that were great for his purpose.

The only concern I'd have is what you'd do with the foal if it isn't gaited. A lot of experiements end up in the auction or leading horrible lives. Unless you have a specific market to breed for, crossing is not a good idea.

JMHO

[Terry Wallace]

That is a cross that *could* yield a disasterous offspring...a confo nightmare..... The worst one I ever saw was a Belgian X TB... this yielded a bay mare with the straightest hocks (post hocks) big jug head, great big feet, and moved like a lumox.... very uncoordinated... and of course could not handle jumping (what it was bred for).

If you were to do that cross...be sure you at least go "like type to like type" as much as possibe....

The breeds have very different purposes, and very different body types...so I'd sure be carefull in attempting to "re-invent the wheel" so to speak....

My gut reaction is.... why? Why take a light boned, smallish beed, and cross it on a heavy boned, large breed... and "hope" to get something "good" out of it when the very premise is unlikely.... JMO

[Brigitte]

Ditto with Terry. It would be a very weird mix

[PasoPerson38]

Yeah and to get a gaited baby you would probebly need to breed to a NICE fino horse, to maybe help your chances of getting an ok gaited cross. AND most stallion owners ( the ones who have NICE fino stallion) won't breed outside the paso fino breed, it would make the stallion look not as good becuase he did not produce a good horse. I wouldn't either. :-?
PS. one would have to be in a ditch and one on a ladder :lol:

[Carol Nelson]

I agree totally with Carol and Terry...I'm not at all in favor of crossbreeding...unless you have perfect specimens of both breeds and like Carol said, are breeding for a specific market.
Too many of these "experiments" do end up as breeding culls in either rescues or at the auction houses...for every successful breeding, how many failures do you have to discard?

[GeorgeGuns]

gotta pipe in here. The perforated founder I am seeing is a Friesian, her owner breeds them, so I have gotten to learn a few things about them. Friesians, and other drafts, are so bred to trot that even getting some to canter is a chore, esp the Friesians. This strong of a trot gene would make breeding to a gaited horse an exercise in futility if its gait you want. Confo wise, some paso types are nearly as "renaissance" as Friesians, might be a pretty horse, but i would not even expect gait.

[PASOFAN]

The reason I was thinking Freisian and paso is because they are similar in look just one is much bigger/drafty..

Also I was thinking since I love dratfs it would be nice to get a gaited one.. Or just go Andulusian since i believe they are considered draft...

I just wanted to know if someone knew of any or someone w/them or had pics.. Thanks all..

[GeorgeGuns]

I'm curious - where did you get the info that Andies are draft? You got me stumped. Carriage maybe, but draft?

[PASOFAN]

I guess since there size is comparable to draft but little smaller boned.. I dont know much about Andulusians so that is a big answer as to why I thought so..

[Terry Wallace]

Nope...Andalusians are not drafts. Drafts are cold bloods. Andalusians are Spanish hot bloods all the way! They are not close in size to drafts nor built like drafts... ;-)

[pasoloosa]

hi I am new here just reg I haven't seen paso draft cross but i am crossing my paso mare with my appaloosa stallion. the first cross and second cross both are gaited. going to be about 15.2 hands and has the best attitude. My appys are people orintated and the sweet disposition of the paso I feel I am going to have a awesome trail and pleasure horse. :D

[Got Brio?]

It sounds like cool cross breed. although I like Pasos the way they are.

[Pasogirlz]

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Welcome Pasoloosa, I've heard of that breed before, but never ridden one. You will have to post some pix for us. 8-)

[Tami Pinell]

The only concern I'd have is what you'd do with the foal if it isn't gaited. A lot of experiements end up in the auction or leading horrible lives. Unless you have a specific market to breed for, crossing is not a good idea. JMHO

A spanish breed crossed with draft - including paso finos - that do not gait make really nice pony clubbing horses/ponies, event horses, jumpers, and ****fox hunters*****. Just because the offspring does not gait does not mean it has poor conformation and is not worthy of some other type of equine sport. Personally I would love to see one or two in combined driving.....

I believe there is a person whom frequented the old BB that owns a pinto paso stallion that does cross him to her drafts, has been doing it since the colt left my farm for hers years ago (I did not own him, I started him under saddle.). Maybe someone could get her to give us some insight on crossing pasos with drafts. Ciente is a beautiful stallion, I may add.... ;-) I would love to see some photos of the cross offspring.