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Mellifluous
10-08-2007, 07:29 PM
This is a quote by CS Lewis. It pretty much sums up why I opted out of being a secondary education major and became and Landscape Architecture major.

"What I want to fix your attention on is the vast overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence -- moral, cultural, social or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how 'democracy' (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient dictatorships, and by the same methods? The basic proposal of the new education is to be that dunces and idlers must not be made to feel inferior to intelligent and industrious pupils. That would be 'undemocratic.' Children who are fit to proceed may be artificially kept back, because the others would get a trauma by being left behind. The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval's [of the same age] attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT. We may reasonably hope for the virtual abolition of education when 'I'm as good as you' has fully had its way. All incentives to learn and all penalties for not learning will vanish. The few who might want to learn will be prevented; who are they to overtop their fellows? And anyway, the teachers -- or should I say nurses? -- will be far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching. We shall no longer have to plan and toil to spread imperturbable conceit and incurable ignorance among men." C. S. Lewis

Finogirl
10-08-2007, 08:16 PM
I just love CS Lewis, he had a lot of wisdon that man !!

Soltera
10-08-2007, 08:23 PM
All the "Inklings" were incredible thinkers, and visionaries. Of course, the British and American systems of education were very different, and maybe still are different in style, content, execution, etc.

Mel, how will global warming affect your Landscape Architecture career? Do your courses cover those issues? I ask because APF recently had a long thread about yard woes...

CarolU
10-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Mel, my niece is a teacher in Denver. She would agree with your reasoning, if not your decision. She said right now they are forced to teach to a test, so probably 90% of the time kids are in your class, you are route teaching what is needed to pass the test. And you are right, with "No Child Left Behind" it is dummied down. I do notice that a BIG percentage of kids STILL don't pass the test.

When I was a kid, the schools started New Math and Phonic Reading. My dad hated both, so he put us all in private school. He also took an interest in our education and every night we all did homework together - the television was OFF. And my dad helped us.

I think that the education system right now is what the electorate asked for, and what they voted for, and what they want.

I hope it isn't too shocking to everyone when in a few years all the millions of Asian children that are applying themselves right now in school - while our kids are dummied down and on Play Stations - take all the positions at our colleges, universities, and then on the boards of major companies. It's already happening, but the scale is only going to tip farther and farther.

Mellifluous
10-08-2007, 09:15 PM
Not to mention the way science has been stifled in this nation. It is really sad. I put that one squarely in the lap of the religious right. They have caused the country to veer way off course in the science arena.

Discover had a great article on it last month.