Myler EZ trainer?

[pasohappy]

Hello its been a long time, :question I was wondering has anyone used the EZ trainer, Its very expensive, and looks nice. Just happen to to see it advertised on a site. You can see it on the Myler site.

[Pasogirlz]

WB Pasohappy! Hope you stick around.

Sorry, I have never used one of those before. :confused

[halfmoonfino]

Never used it, but it looks unique and interesting. Seems like the kind of thing your horse would either love or hate, so I'd see if you could test one out before you buy! Looks like a sidepull/hackamore combination to me. Interesting...

[pasohappy]

I would love to test it out, if I could find one that they would let me try,,cause they are pretty pricy, I am debateing about it. what can I sell to buy this.. mmmmmm :roll:

[CarolU]

Well, you got my curiosity up and I went and checked it out. I don't think I'd be even tempted to try one. They look very seveir to me. The rawhide over the nose is rough stitched and has many 'knots' in it, as does the curb strap. The metal piece in the curb can be very seveir when a horse is just learning and making mistakes. I like to start and stay as soft as I can. If I go hard at all, it is with a smooth well-wrapped piece of leather that won't abraid the skin. I could see this gear creating wounds and leaving scars.

I have found Paso Finos to be very sensitive and you don't require much in the way of hard equipment to train them. I have two, and know of many other Pasos, that have been riden their entire lives in nothing harsher then a simple jaquima.

If you are looking for training gear, I'd suggest a Poly trainer from Casa Dosa, or any jaquima that has LOTS of adjustments or removeable/changeble nose and curb pieces. The best one I've ever seen was made by Fran on the BB (in Canada) who makes a nice jaquima that is VERY adjustable out of good quality English harness leather.

[pasohappy]

Carol,Well your right about it looking severe, on the ENLARGED picture ( I should have taken time and looked at the enlarged picture). That metal thing under the chin , does look like it can be pretty harsh on the chin for sure.
I sure do appreciate the input about it.
There is so much tack out on the market for sale, new gadgets all the time.
Thats why its so nice to have a forum like this, sure does help.
Now someone else will read about the EZ trainer, on here and really take a close look at it, before making up there mind.
I don't need it for training, my horses are fine with the myler comfort snaffle. and the bosal.
But it does look kinda neat, doesn't it?????? :jumpy . awww come on say yes.
We should all put pictures on here of tack, and get feed back on them, that sure would be a great conversation topic.

[KAB]

I saw that one too.I am going to try a Sprenger padded short shank one.Carol if you have time, can you look it up?--Dover Saddlery--thanks.I want to use it on my very hard headed problem child.I use the poly trainer but sometimes it isn't enough.And we have to do alot of flex and one rein stops so a bit isn't always the best thing.I know bosal & bit and 2 reins would probably be best,huh?

[CarolU]

Yep, it does look neat, and might not be too bad with some modifications. It also looks mighty expensive! LOL And Kathryn, glad you sent me to Dover's site to look at the Sprenger bits. I didn't find the one you are looking at, but looking at those prices sure made me feel better about what I pay for Mylers. LOL

It sounds like you would be well off with a comfort snaffle with either D-rings or Full cheek pieces. I don't like shanks on snaffles (or "jointed curbs" if you prefer) because when you pull with one rein, the top of the shank drives into their gums. This will give you some bad head and avoidance problems. The cheek piece or straight bar on the D-ring will keep the bit from pulling through the horse's mouth when you use one rein.

Otherwise, if you want a short shanked bit for the leverage, you are better off with a curb or mullen mouth type bit.

[Privatetreaty]

I hope you have light hands.
It is more severe to put pressure on the chin, than it is on the nose.

This is not an appropriate starter devise.

Why are you considering this particular devise?
Please tell us about the horse you are planning to use this on.

[CarolU]

I went to Casa Dosa's site and pulled up a page of their Myler bits. They are a good source since the stock many 4-3/4" mouthpieces. Most places only stock 5".

http://www.casadosa.com/Scripts/prodList.asp?idcategory=23&curPage=2&sortField=sortorder


The first bit down is a D-ring comfort snaffle. It has a barrel over the joint of the snaffle and this gets rid of the nut cracker affect.

Other bits I like on this page are the mullen mouth forward tilts...The Forward tilt with HBT shank is my favorite bit.

You can measure your horses mouth by putting a piece of string or rope through it. Hold your fingers on each side where the shank would go, then measure the length.

[pasohappy]

Yes I have the forward tilt one with the HBT shanks, my gelding goes fantastic in it, so light, and I have the comfort snaffle with the copper roller, I use that one on my mare. she is not as light as my gelding, she did not like the forward tilt, but seems to like the comfort snaffle,and goes okay in it, not sure what else to use on her, can't keep buying bits, she is pretty good in the bosal, but after awhile she lugs into. Probably if I could ride every day I could get her out of the habit, but when your working there is just not enought time, am I complaining? yes I wish I could quick work, can't quite retire yet, but soon.

[KAB]

Carol I was talking about the padded hackamore.It was a Sprenger....Jeffers sold these in their 2005 summer catalog but they no longer carry them and they are at least 65 everywhere else.

[Hacienda Del Sol]

I have one and I use it. It's a nice piece of equipment, but, in the wrong hands it can be severe. It's not nearly as severe as you may think. the bosal is covered in leather and the curb is covered as well. Tools like this can be very useful, but only when used sensibly.