Is this Paso?

[baileyholc]

http://www.2hottotrot.com/data/500/blackberry_2.jpg

http://www.2hottotrot.com/data/500/blackberry_3.jpg

He will gate but will not stay in gate. I don't know who he is but the girls at the barn call him Blackberry because he is black and is sweet like a blackberry. LOL

[baileyholc]

The girl on him is in dressage lessons. She asked me if he could do dressage. Can Paso dressage. This one will trot. I didn't think they could do that. His owner told me that the man who she got him from used him as a trail horse for children. Do Paso forget that they are gated? I know that is a silly question but this guy puzzles me.

[CarolU]

Well of course Pasos can trot....most do, especially at liberty in the fields. Pasos can also do dressage, but once you get them collected, they usually gait. There is gaited dressage now.

[baileyholc]

Well of course Pasos can trot....most do, especially at liberty in the fields. Pasos can also do dressage, but once you get them collected, they usually gait. There is gaited dressage now.

This lady that owns him does not believe me when I tell her that Pasos can dressage. I remember someone talking about it. I think it was Stella and Michelle. She wants me to show her video. Hmm. I think I will sign up for dressage and ride Paso. Their would be her video. Am I right.

[baileyholc]

She told me that his feet when she brought him home had 8 inches of growth. That will affect his gait, will it not?

[pnalley]

There is a well known dressage trainer (her name escapes me) that says most horses can be trained in dressage to level 1, after that conformation, etc come into play.

Any horse can be started with dressage. Few can go to upper levels.

[baileyholc]

I believe she will use him as a lesson horse in hunter jumper for beginners. I really don't know what this lady has in store for him if she decides she wants to keep him. She didn't know he was paso until the girls were playing around with him and she saw him go into a corto. She didn't know what it was until I told her. I told her he will cross county and hunter jumper as well as dressage but she don't believe be about the dressage. She says the horse has to trot, lope, and canter. I rode a QH this past Sunday, on a trail ride with her and her friend. She told her friend that blackberry would be better for her to ride since she had back surgery. The friend was a little worried about riding him because she just got him three weeks ago. I assured her that if the girls from the school have been riding him he is broke to ride and she will have no problem out of him and she didn't. This horse had not been on the trail and he insisted on leading the group. I am still recovering from my hour long ride.

[motorgypsy]

Paso finos, even those really strongly gaited, can be trained to trot under saddle even all the time. They can do an amazing array of gaits but the problem lies in getting them to do the gait you WANT them to do at the time you want them to do it. But a good paso fino trainer/rider can have a normal, well gaited paso fino that has learned to trot under saddle, gaiting in a few seconds. They don't forget how to gait. They just do what is expected of them by their rider. Crystal trained Ickis to trot and did regular dressage with him if I remember correctly so if he is trained to trot under saddle and of course he can canter, he can do regular dressage. With gaits he can do gaited dressage like Michelle and Stella did. So they can do both. I personally would train a paso fino to gait on command before I trained it to trot though. Why trot when you can gait???

[CarolU]

This lady that owns him does not believe me when I tell her that Pasos can dressage. I remember someone talking about it. I think it was Stella and Michelle. She wants me to show her video. Hmm. I think I will sign up for her dressage class and ride Paso. Their would be her video. Am I right.

Here is your video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYucFQsk66Y

Paso Fino Stallion, Dinamo QC, and his rider and trainer, Petra Krämer, winning the Dressage C at the 2008 UK Paso Fino Spring Show with the score of 7,63!

[baileyholc]

Thanks CarolU, now to get sent to my blackberry to show her the next time I go out their. I should ask her if she has email. :rolleyes:

[aynot]

Here is your video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYucFQsk66Y

Paso Fino Stallion, Dinamo QC, and his rider and trainer, Petra Krämer, winning the Dressage C at the 2008 UK Paso Fino Spring Show with the score of 7,63!


YIKES! :confused:

[paintedhorizon]

Bailey, Stella and I both have participated in Gaited Dressage. Main and only difference is instead of trot, we corto, instead of extended trot, we largo. In the upper levels, we do canter. Just never trot.

Lori has an article on the home page about the dressage show Stella and I were in, and if you do a search on gaited dressage, I'm sure you'll see the videos.

[mustangrider]

Bailey, You are going to laugh when I tell you that I have another paso from the same group that Blackberry came from. My guy is going great on trail. He is an awesome little guy. Good Luck with BlackBerry. I know he can do it all if he is anything like my guy.

[paintedhorizon]

Aynot, why do you say yikes?

[baileyholc]

I don't know Blackberrys whole story just what the girls and the instructer has told me. Their was another Paso in the herd with him, the instructer told me that the other Paso looked much better than him. But she really didn't know that Blackberry was Paso until his feet were trimed and the girls started riding him. They asked what he was doing when he took little step. That is when she realized he was Paso. She is not experiance with the Paso, she usto have a boarder that had two paso in board their at her place. She said that Blackberry had so much growth on his hooves that the poor thing could not drop a hip nor could he walk normal. He would have to lift his feet so high that he looked like a TW with bad feet. I wish I had seen him when she first got him. He looks so much better than what she dicribed to me. She said his tail was so matted that it looked and felt like a baseball bat.

Mustangrider, do you have pictures of your guy.

[mustangrider]

I hope this picture comes out ok. He is really great. I am grinning from ear to ear as I write this because he is sooo cool. His feet were terrible also. He had a laminitic episode in the past. He is sound now. He is so out of shape that he only maintains gait for a few minutes at a time. He will pace or trot if I am not sitting just right. He is learning to walk out in a flat walk now. He just needs endurance and conditioning. He really is a trooper. His only issue is that he was beaten severly in the past. He is afraid of every little movement from a human. Once on him, he doesn't do anything wrong. His tail too was a club. He had so much tail that I just cut that section out. You can't tell. He is getting better daily. He moves well and is fairly bomp proof or deer proof at least. Doesn't mind the tractor, lawn mower, chihuahua, go cart, chickens, etc.

He is great. You would love him.

[baileyholc]

He is very nice looking. I remember my first ride on a Paso. I talked about it for days. As a mater of fact, if you take a look at motorgypsy's avatar you will see the Paso that got me hooked. :v:

[mustangrider]

I understand. My grin gets bigger and bigger after each ride. They is cool. I know MG has gorgeous horses.

[baileyholc]

Have you seen MG's Sultan?

[mustangrider]

No I haven't, but the pictures are breathtaking. Make me want another.

[baileyholc]

MG, will you post a picture of Sultan?

[baileyholc]

Cindy's stallion has beautiful color. I love to see all the different colors in this breed. They are much more bolder and brighter than other breeds.

[mustangrider]

Mine has white in the most unusual of places. It looks as if someone went crazy with a paintbrush...Deep rich chocolate with marshmellow cream.!!!!!

[aynot]

Aynot, why do you say yikes?

I know that all breeds of riding horses can benefit from the use of dressage principles and training techniques and I would imagine that the horse in that video was in an introductory class but I saw no extension, relaxation or impulsion whatsoever.

That horse was like a ticking time bomb the whole time. There was NOTHING 'Ballet Like" about that performance.

Tonya

[motorgypsy]

At your service!

Magnifico de Besilu AKA Sultan went to nationals in bella forma and placed but we haven't shown him yet. Confirmed grulla dun paso fino stallion.

First four photos he had some of his winter coat so wasn't as slick as he is in the summer. These are copyrighted by Darlene Wohlhart - a genius with a lens!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/CRW_1677a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/CRW_1630.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/CRW_1642-copy-Sultan.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/CRW_1608copyearstrimmedabit.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/IM000466a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/sultansniff.jpg

The entire line - grandmother, grandson, great grandson are very metallic looking duns

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/CRW_1693.jpg

And Cindy's boy is very beautiful. Maybe she'll share some more pictures of him??

[motorgypsy]

Regarding gaited dressage and paso finos - that horse looked much more relaxed to me than the videos I've seen of the freestyle dressage very advanced levels where the horse is flipping his tail all over the place and the rider is hitting the horse with the spurs on every stride. It is beautiful but I sure wouldn't say it's relaxed looking. Rita and Michelle aka paintedhorse looked even more relaxed but their level was lower since gaited dressage is just starting in our area.

I cannot tell you if the performance of the paso fino was outstanding. What I CAN tell you is that a paso fino is like a ferrari - a lot of horsepower under the hood and even more torque when you hit the gas. This is what the horse that is bred for - sensitive and responsive a willingness to please and a love for its job. I know some show paso fino horses and riders that could walk in a dressage ring and give an electrifying performance with a horse that really IS WOUND UP but that will come down in an instant when the rider asks. The paso fino in the video appeared to be extremely relaxed during the entire performance. Actually more relaxed than I prefer. I like to see the instant "on/off" in a paso fino - fire when you ask for it - no fire when you ask for it in a horse that LOVES showing off.

Tonya - do you own and ride paso finos? If not please let us on the forum know because we have people all over who will give a ride on a GOOD paso fino.

I recently had a hunter/jumper rider (4' fences) ride my tiny 13 2 mare - the one in my avatar that I was doing barrel turns on - yes she is my speed event horse and my LD endurance mare, my show horse, parade horse and my just hang out on horse. The fairly tall lady was afraid the mare was too small. She tried her anyway. When she got off I asked her if she was too small. She said "You don't notice her size! WOW - it was amazing - like riding a bullet! But she did everything I asked her to do instantly including stop and flat walk!" She didn't stop smiling for a long time.

[paintedhorizon]

I agree with MGs, I don't see how that horse was "time bomb" at all, the reins were even relaxed.

MGs, I just love the third pic! It's my fav of him!

[Cindy]

Oh please, that horse was totally relaxed. And while I agree that the performance was pretty basic, the woman rode the horse very well. The horse was well balanced with a rounded back. Not swishing it's tail like you see in so many "dressage" horses these days. With very light leg and no spurring with every stride. In fact, no spurs at all. A complete rarity in anything that is generally called dressage. Frankly, I would take that over a more difficult performance of higher level movements where the horse is spurred into submission and showing his displeasure all the way through his tail any day of the week. But then, I prefer to see a happy horse doing it's work willingly than a happy rider making it's horse do what he wants it to do. Go figure.

[baileyholc]

I know nothing about dressage but what little I know about Paso Finos, that one was relaxed and was wanting to please. No tail swishing and No arguing. That Paso was beautiful.


Thanks MG. I just love to see Sultan. I can't wait to see him in person one day.

Yes, Cindy Pretty Please. Post some picture of your boy.

[motorgypsy]

Thanks Mary. The third picture is Darlene's artistry at work. The original was of sultan running with his buddy, our Cracker gelding but she spotted just how amazing it would look cropped. She IS a GENIUS! And sooo nice!

Here's one of the two of them running just as the sun dropped behind the mountain. They're building a golf course now on this pasture.:mecry:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/CRW_1633.jpg

[paintedhorizon]

Totally agree with everything here.Oh please, that horse was totally relaxed. And while I agree that the performance was pretty basic, the woman rode the horse very well. The horse was well balanced with a rounded back. Not swishing it's tail like you see in so many "dressage" horses these days. With very light leg and no spurring with every stride. In fact, no spurs at all. A complete rarity in anything that is generally called dressage. Frankly, I would take that over a more difficult performance of higher level movements where the horse is spurred into submission and showing his displeasure all the way through his tail any day of the week. But then, I prefer to see a happy horse doing it's work willingly than a happy rider making it's horse do what he wants it to do. Go figure.

[Cindy]

I know nothing about dressage but what little I know about Paso Finos, that one was relaxed and was wanting to please. No tail swishing and No arguing. That Paso was beautiful.


Thanks MG. I just love to see Sultan. I can't wait to see him in person one day.

Yes, Cindy Pretty Please. Post some picture of your boy.


I will post some later in their own thread. I should have time tonight after work. Thanks.

[baileyholc]

That would be great Cindy. See you then. :biggrin:

[aynot]

Tonya - do you own and ride paso finos? If not please let us on the forum know because we have people all over who will give a ride on a GOOD paso fino.


Motorgypsy,

I got out of horses a couple of years ago. I have never owned Paso Finos but have ridden a couple of REALLY nice ones. I rode BJ Schuler's black stallion as well as a gray filly at Kathy Williams place in NC. The filly was owned by Kathy and BJ. Both SUPER nice horses!

I didn't post my comments to tick anybody off. I gave my honest opinion. The only thing I would like to change from my original statement is to say that the horse looked like a wind up toy rather than a ticking time bomb. Now that I re-read my post, wind up toy is more what I was trying to point out.

What I meant in saying that is that the horse moved at the same speed at all times and never displayed any extension, etc. It was not exciting.

I have always thought of dressage as similar to ballet... I have seen a couple of Prix St. Georges horses that blew my socks off! No tail swishing, invisible cues by the rider and incredible movement and changes in speed, gait, etc.

If my opinion offended anybody, I apologize but I still stand by it. To me, that is nowhere NEAR a decent dressage performance.

Tonya

[Cindy]

To that I will not disagree. While I did see a change of extension in a couple of places, I had to look really hard to see it. As far as dressage performances go, that one was very basic and not terribly impressive. Having said that, I WAS terribly impressed with the rider of the horse for the training that HAD been done with the horse. The horse was very well mannered and very well trained. Not knowing the level of horse or rider that is really all that I came away with. I guess one could either look to the negatives or look to the positives of the performance. While it could easily be trashed, it could just as easily be praised. I personally would never trash a well trained and happy horse performing willingly what it was bred to do. And no offense taken here. Just conversation.

[aynot]

To that I will not disagree. While I did see a change of extension in a couple of places, I had to look really hard to see it. As far as dressage performances go, that one was very basic and not terribly impressive. Having said that, I WAS terribly impressed with the rider of the horse for the training that HAD been done with the horse. The horse was very well mannered and very well trained. Not knowing the level of horse or rider that is really all that I came away with. I guess one could either look to the negatives or look to the positives of the performance. While it could easily be trashed, it could just as easily be praised. I personally would never trash a well trained and happy horse performing willingly what it was bred to do. And no offense taken here. Just conversation.

Cindy,

Agreed! You're an optimist... I admire you for that.

Tonya

[aynot]

I hope this link works...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xjt2FOax6v0&feature=related

To me, this is one relaxed horse and one nice ride! :D Love it! The lead changes... BEAUTIFUL!

Tonya

[CarolU]

Tonya, you are looking at two completely different levels of dressage. The first clip was a Class C performance. This is the very beginning. The horse in the clip you posted was at Grand Prix level. Like comparing First Grade to High School.

BTW - while I like the extension and execution of the horse in the second clip, I do not care for the fact that it was way over flexed. I know this is popular in dressage right now, just wish it wasn't so.

[Cindy]

Very well trained and very well ridden for sure. But the horse does not thrill me. He or she is weak in the rear and as a result does not support himself from the hind as well as he should. This is evidenced by the fact that his hind legs trail out behind him at times when they should be underneath him and also that he tends to overtuck on the front end when asked for collection. He is also quite narrow in the chest for my tastes and it is hard to tell from the angle but it appears as though he may travel base narrow on the front and toe in a bit on both fronts. But the performance was nearly flawless and the riding was first rate for sure.

My problem with any dressage presented for observation is that after having seen the Spanish Riding School and/or Ramon Becera perfroming, all else really tends to pale in comparison. It takes both a strong horse and a flawless performance to rattle my cage beyond a general appreciation of the task at hand. But both performances presented in this thread are of happy horses and happy riders doing what they do so all is good. :v:

As for being the optimist, thanks. I take that as a compliment. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to go through life with any other approach. There is of course a time for everything. The Beatles taught us that. Or, rather, they repeated that and taught it to those who have NO IDEA from whence it came. ROFL. But why dwell on the negative times? Get through them and be stronger. Go ride. Live life. Be happy. For tomorrow is another day. Scarlett. Chow.

[motorgypsy]

Ahhh yes - wind up toy is fine. There was no fire in the performance which is why I said I know some paso finos that could go into a dressage arena and simply enthrall the audience whether what they were doing was correct or not.

What the video of the paso fino doing gaited dressage reminded me of was a professional performance by some Eastern European group of ladies with long skirts on performing a type of dance that was quite lovely but that made them look like they were mechanized. They took these tiny steps and moved all over the stage in a most interesting and beautiful floating fashion because you could not see their feet at all. It was extremely soothing to watch, and entrancing but you would not call it exciting.

There are plenty of really exciting paso finos who love to perform and do so with great fire. I've posted this photo many times before. This is a very lovely little bay mare who is frequently mistaken for a yearling because she has that "Bambi" look about her. Nothing very spectacular when you see her standing around. But when you ride her or see her in action she gives you chills. She has so much fire, so much beauty and does the change in speed that throws you back in the saddle when she goes from corto to largo. But just because the paso fino in the video is not like this does not make his performance any less lovely or any less amazing. Just different. I was very impressed also with how happy he seemed. The kind of paso fino all of us would love to own and ride just for the joy of it.

Our fiery flame bay mare.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/motorgypsy/BRANDY6.jpg

[CarolU]

This is Karen Rohlf. I consider this worth aspiring to...with any horse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD7Wpfqd2Vg

[aynot]

This is Karen Rohlf. I consider this worth aspiring to...with any horse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD7Wpfqd2Vg

Wow! Lots of training there! I enjoyed watching that clip... the trainer's cues are so consistent.

LOL... that horse travels with it's nose close to the ground. It looks like it's ready to drop and roll at any second!

[paintedhorizon]

Okay, here's the video of me and Rita at our dressage class. Basic level, so no extension was necessary. Please note, my mom was videoing this while watching my 2 year old son. That should explain everything! hahaha And I know, I'm way overweight but I'm working on that!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/jklawitter/Paso%20Fino/Rita/th_Michele.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/jklawitter/Paso%20Fino/Rita/?action=view&current=Michele.flv)

Pics (my toes always do that, working on that too)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/jklawitter/Paso%20Fino/Rita/MeRita.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/jklawitter/Paso%20Fino/Rita/MeRita2.jpg (she's a little uncollected here)

I really had a blast and would do it again, but at $25 per class, I just can't afford it.

One real big thing I'd like to point out, we're doing this all in a bosal!

[paintedhorizon]

Stella's performance was much better. She got first, I got second, a puerto rican got 3rd, then two more columbians got fourth and fifth.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/jklawitter/Paso%20Fino/Angelica/th_stella_0001.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/jklawitter/Paso%20Fino/Angelica/?action=view&current=stella_0001.flv)

[paintedhorizon]

Sorry they're so shaky, it was also raining, so she was videoing, holding an umbrella and a 2 year old. hahaha

[aynot]

Painted Horizon,

Your horse is just adorable! Fat, slick and nicely put together. :)

You're not fat... not even close.

Tonya

[baileyholc]

Cool video PH. Was that from the first time you showed in dressage? How is that Happy Boy of yours? I bet he is running you ragged now. :v:

[paintedhorizon]

Thank you Aynot! That is Stella's horse and I love her to death! She is awesome, isn't she Bailey?

Yes, that was my first show. And he's doing great, will be 4 in August! And he's ridden 3 times now! On Rita and Angelica!

[aynot]

Thank you Aynot! That is Stella's horse and I love her to death! She is awesome, isn't she Bailey?

Yes, that was my first show. And he's doing great, will be 4 in August! And he's ridden 3 times now! On Rita and Angelica!

I looked at your pics again.... that horse is really beautiful. Love the head and the expression in the eyes.

P.S. You don't look old enough to have a child!

[baileyholc]

aynot, That horse is mine, I have first dibs on her if Stella decides she is going to sell her. I am running for cover now.

[baileyholc]

Oh, and its in the water.

[baileyholc]

Were did my pictures go? :confused:

[paintedhorizon]

You have second dibs! LOL

aynot, That horse is mine, I have first dibs on her if Stella decides she is going to sell her. I am running for cover now.

And thanks Aynot! I'm 32 though. LOL

[baileyholc]

My pictures are back! It's like magic!

[motorgypsy]

What pictures???

[baileyholc]

The ones I posted in the first post. They were gone yesterday.

[baileyholc]

Oh, The Paso in my pictures is the same Paso that mustangride is talking about in her post. She adopted Blackberrys pasture mate. And I am going to take dressage lesson but they will most likely be on her lesson horse. Witch will be fine with me. I think the lesson will help me feel more confident in my riding. I volunteered to work with her Paso. I do hope she lets me. I need to get my camcorder out their to take video of him so yall can help. If she will let me work with him He will be the first Paso I have worked. I am so exited. And she still hasn't said I could. Anyway, it's going to be fun. I am at lest riding again. Yepee!

[motorgypsy]

OK they're still there.

[baileyholc]

OK they're still there.

They came back yesterday. I checked again today, too. :biggrin:

[TrueStepPaso]

I have a question in regards to that natural dressage video.....after reading some comments about tail swishing relating to discomfort and forced movements, I wondered why that rolly-pollie in the video would pin her (?) ears and swish her tail so dramatically while being "free" (for lack of a better word)....?

Thoughts, anyone. Cause it honestly confuses me...

[baileyholc]

Witch one of the videos are you talking about?

[paintedhorizon]

Nt sure which video you are talking about, I don't see any rollie pollies?I have a question in regards to that natural dressage video.....after reading some comments about tail swishing relating to discomfort and forced movements, I wondered why that rolly-pollie in the video would pin her (?) ears and swish her tail so dramatically while being "free" (for lack of a better word)....?

Thoughts, anyone. Cause it honestly confuses me...

[Cindy]

I have a question in regards to that natural dressage video.....after reading some comments about tail swishing relating to discomfort and forced movements, I wondered why that rolly-pollie in the video would pin her (?) ears and swish her tail so dramatically while being "free" (for lack of a better word)....?

Thoughts, anyone. Cause it honestly confuses me...

Because the horse was taught all of these movements with the required tack prior to being shown "free". Thus he developed the tail swish to go along with certain movements while he was being taught such movements. Also notice that he appears to be a happier, less swishy and a better balanced horse when being ridden WITH the tack as opposed to when he is ridden tack-less. The reason for this is because the rider uses less leg on him when he is tacked. When he is shown sans tack the rider must use a lot of leg in order to cue the horse for what she wants him to do. When she is riding with the advantage of a bit, she uses less leg as she can signal with the bit as well as with her leg. And the horse APPEARS to be happier for it. One of the main things that causes horses to swish is the leg aid. Some are VERY sensitive to it and will swish if you even suggest using it. Others will swish if you use the aid with spur. Others could not care less. But, bottom line, more leg= more swish.

[motorgypsy]

And really just because cues don't touch doesn't mean they can't induce stress. A whip in the air can be very stress inducing. And psychological stress can be worse than physical stress. Some horses are just really sensitive.

[Cindy]

And really just because cues don't touch doesn't mean they can't induce stress. A whip in the air can be very stress inducing. And psychological stress can be worse than physical stress. Some horses are just really sensitive.

True. Very true.

[CarolU]

And really just because cues don't touch doesn't mean they can't induce stress. A whip in the air can be very stress inducing. And psychological stress can be worse than physical stress. Some horses are just really sensitive.

Agree. Just because the horse is performing at Liberty doesn't mean it is not being cued to do what it is doing. It is.

Also, some horses are more swishy then others.

[TrueStepPaso]

Thanks girls! :)

[motorgypsy]

Speaking of swishy I'm sure you know the reason the "non swish" rule was put into the show standards of several paso fino registries. It was because a swishy tail can indicate nervousness or a desire on the part of the horse to vacate the premises. So of course what do the some of the trainers/owners/riders do? Do they make sure the horse is a "happy camper" so no tail swish? Oh no - they put the tail stilling device (no it's not painful, just stops the horse from swishing it's tail - which might be painful if it prevents the swatting of a horsefly but that's not the point) on the horse to teach it not to swish. Makes great sense to me.:rolleyes:

[baileyholc]

I got to do a little ground work with Blackberry today. He is a little pushy when he is being lead. He wants to walk ahead. Well, today he learned he can not do that with me. He would get ahead of me and I would stop and make him back up. Each time he got ahead I would stop. He findly got the hint after about 5 minute of this and started walking behind me. I was so proud.