View Full Version : How many of you have horses who talk to you?
motorgypsy
02-20-2006, 01:07 PM
Obviously not talk with language but "mind meld" - like the flash you get when you and someone you are close to think the exact same thing at the same time - so that you instantly can verbalize what the horse is communicating.
Barbwire
02-20-2006, 01:29 PM
I was torn on which way to vote, so I consulted my Magic "8" Ball. :roll:
Jasfino
02-20-2006, 01:47 PM
I can with Jasper most of the time and sometimes with a few others. Its amazing how smart these guys are.
Terry Wallace
02-20-2006, 02:21 PM
C'mon people....don't your horses greet you? Don't they nicker when you bring feed? Can you tell each one has a very distinctive voice, and that some speak more than others? I can't even open the front door here without being met by neighs from the pastures...
What do they mostly say? FEED ME....scratch me, let me out of this pen and into the pasture.... what is taking you so long? Stop by here first with the hay cart... Who is in the (horse) trailer? Who is that in the "unknown vehicle" pulling into the drive? What dog is that? ;-)
Blameitonbrio
02-20-2006, 02:31 PM
Mack, our TWH gelding, does this almost inaudible nicker or rumble after we treat him sometimes. It reminds me of the low rumbling sound that elephants make, which I heard on Animal Planet. I don't know what it means, but it feels like "thank you." More likely it is "Is that all?!?"
Barbwire
02-20-2006, 02:34 PM
Being able to tell what a horse wants by his actions or sounds is just being a good, observant horseman. I don't believe in "mind meld" stuff or animal communicators. I beleive in common sense.
ErinC
02-20-2006, 02:37 PM
Ditto on most of what Barb said.
But I will add, I can change what my horses are thinking, with what I am thinking, so Yes I do.
CarolU
02-20-2006, 02:50 PM
While all mine nicker at feeding time, Zar will snort an entire conversation at me, usually to tell me how displeased she is about something! In her nomination thread I mentioned her throwing her hay bag out of the stall, well she preceded that with snorts to tell me it didn't contain food to her satisfaction.
Right now I am seperating her until Bella gets done with her pellets (Zar has her own pellets, but not the same as Bella's) and vitamins. Zar doesn't STOP telling me I'm very DUMB...can't I see she is not getting to Bella's food??? And when I finally let her in, she charges Bella's feeder and if there are no pellets left, she sends the hay in it flying! And yes, snorts some more at me. I really should record this sometime, it's way too funny. Of course, Zar being Zar, thinks I'm doing this deliberetly to tease her. Geesh! Prima Donnas!!
Terry Wallace
02-20-2006, 02:58 PM
Mind meld? animal communicators? Where did that come from?
Horses DO communicate... they speak, they use actions, they do all kinds of things.... Problem is, some folks speak Equus, and others don't!
motorgypsy
02-20-2006, 03:20 PM
Now this is not the same thing as understanding horse body language or noises.
Barbara your mistake is you haven't asked your MOJO!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
This is a visceral type thing where you instantly know what they mean other than the usual feed me. As I said - like the flash you get when you "read" someones' mind and you say something like "Let's have spaghetti for dinner" or "Let's go to Charlie's barbecue" and they say "That's exactly what just flashed into my mind also!
We have cats and dogs and goats - we speak cat and beagle fluently - and we know exactly what they mean by all their actions but it's not the same as the stuff that just pops into our heads from our horses. Now we're science types - not into seances and all sorts of stuff like that but we get a much higher level of communication from the horses than from the other animals who are supposedly more intelligent.
Animal communicators??? I don't know about that although I suspect some people are very attune to pain in particular in animals and probably would be very good with babies also. We're natural sceptics here.
It may be because our horses interact with us like guest members of the herd and the goats don't have a herd. Herd animals and pack animals have to be better communicators anyway. We know a person whose dogs talk to her and they understand her when she talks to them but we've never gotten to that point with our dogs. The funny thing is, this is a horse person but her horses don't talk to her at all. She can read them - I'm hungry, I'm angry and so on but it's not like the way she communicates with the dogs. The great thing about boarding barns is getting to watch all the different people interact with their horses. Some are so great and some don't have a clue.
I love to watch Dennis Reiss because his horses talk to him.
Now we don't get this level from all horses. Some shut us out for quite a while.
It's kind of like looking at a horse as an experience horse person and saying "that horse is afraid" in comparison to actually feeling the fear yourself. The real animal communicators probably do this and then just interpret based on experience.
halfmoonfino
02-20-2006, 03:43 PM
Pitty talks with his eyes, body, and attitude, but very rarely does he use vocal sounds. I get a nicker out of him only once in a blue moon. But he has an uncanny ability to get across what he needs to say. For example, he really loves his yellow rope halter. One day my mom was at a Way of the Horse clinic, and whenever she thought about Pitty, she saw the color BRIGHT yellow. After a while, that color started popping into my mind too, so Isearched high and low and found a yellow halter. I will have you know he literally is addicted to this thing. If I try to ride him in anything else, he will take the bridle in his mouth, bite it, throw it on the ground, or balk when he is led in it. As soon as I switch bridles he's fine. In addition, if I hold out his bosal and his yellow bridle, he always takes the yellow one in his mouth and tries to grab it from me.
Some people think animal communication is magic, but it's not. It's just learning to speak and hear in a different way, much like learning a foreign language. Animals communicate just as clear as you and I, but in vastly different ways. Pitty has "explained" lots of things to me, and they work! One of the main reasons I was actually able to get him was because, despite his introverted, grumpy, and frankly, out-of-control attitude, everyone just knew he wanted to be my horse. I was able to learn a lot of things from him, and I kid you not, it will be that way for as long as Pitty lives. You can't outgrow a horse because they never run out of things to teach you. They are the most amazing animals I have ever encountered, and I've seen them do things no one would believe. I truly believe they have souls.
Barbwire
02-20-2006, 04:39 PM
Obviously not talk with language but "mind meld" - like the flash you get when you and someone you are close to think the exact same thing at the same time - so that you instantly can verbalize what the horse is communicating.
That's where it came from Terry.
cowboy ed
02-20-2006, 05:29 PM
ok, i'll go along with the common sense aspect of understanding what horse sounds and actions mean. but that other world, spiritual zen, ESP stuff with your horse, sorry folks, thats just looney. :lol:
adorn thyself with the pedal encasement that gives most comfort.
Barbwire
02-20-2006, 05:35 PM
What Sheriff Woody said.
cowboy ed
02-20-2006, 05:47 PM
sheriff woody! haha! i love it! dont you think i look just like him?!
moonrize
02-20-2006, 06:12 PM
Scary thing Ed, you do look like Woody....
However, back to the topic - body language, YES, I get that wth nickers all the time and know what they mean. I think paranormal interspecies communication is best left to the crazy people out there.
My gelding is very opinionated and has a very expressive body language, but he also uses a verbal language. He nickers when he's pleased to see me, wants his food, a treat, being let out, or if I've been gone for a long time (I travel a lot.) When I ride a lot, you can see how he almost sighs when he sees me come, if he's in the pasture, if he's in the stall he'll rather come ride. When I ride he let's me know when he's not pleased, he blows (like he's clearing his nose) and growls like a mama bear defending her cubs to tell me he doesn't like being behind other horses :roll: or whatever is the matter at hand. I love that he's so opinionated and will let me know what he likes and dislikes, but still will do what I ask -even if it's under mild protest. :lol:
CarolU
02-20-2006, 07:18 PM
To be honest, I think most horses are much better at reading people, then most people are at reading horses....and even other people.
Horses know when you're scared, nervous, excited, bored, when you're late, when you forgot to latch the gate, when you left the electric fence off...face it..when someone says "stupid horse!" they are really saying "that horse is smarter then I am!"...
ROFL
Terry Wallace
02-20-2006, 08:04 PM
Yo Barb...I did not read the posts when I replied to the topic...I clicked on the poll, the poll came up, I chose, voted, and then wrote my comments...so,
sorry...I missed that part.
I DO believe horses understand far more than they are given credit for. I DO believe that some humans have better skills communicating with horses than other humans do. I've seen it too many times not to believe it.
Here is a story some of you won't believe...but all I can say is it is TRUE and it happened here.
I decided to sell my gray mare. I had this mare for 9 years. I bought her as a two year old. I was her trainer and only rider. She was my trail horses for a good six years. I had tried a lot of other Paso Finos inbetween the time I had her and decided to sell her. She was not a smooth ride, and she was slow...more prone to small fino-like steps.
I wanted to move on to a quicker horse for trail, one that would keep up with my husband's largo gelding. one day while out riding her, I told the mare, in human words, that I was going to sell her, and why I was selling her. I told her she should prepare to leave this herd she had been a part of for nine years. I ALWAYS talk to my horses...
The first shopper/buyers came to try the mare. The mare that normally would be right up at the gate with the rest of the herd, bolted down to the pasture gate, and began to pace back & forth along the fenceline. I could not catch her...a mare who never ran from me before...I ended up having to haze her into a pen and trap her, to catch her...very bad "karma" for a prospective buyer to see....especially since I had been bragging on how easy she was to catch and handle, that you could walk right up to her.
I get her saddled and the man takes a short ride. My mare is nervous and jiggy...completely not like "herself"... Man decides its not the horse for him so he leaves. I untack the mare and turn her back in with her herd mates, she runs neighing back to her pasturemates..
The mare returns to being her normal self...two weeks go by and another prospective buyer comes to try her. The mare sees somebody new coming up the drive way and she immedialtely bolts to the far side of the pasture before the people can even get out of their truck. Keep in mind...there are 5 other horses in this herd. Those other five horses are all standing at the gate and it is my gray mare bolting down to the pasture gate..all by herself, where she begins to pace back and forth in front of the main gate. If she could have opened that gate...she would have ran to the far end of the pasture, but since she can't open the gate, she paces back & forth in front of it, pushing her head over it and pushing the rails with her chest off and on while continuing to pace back & forth. Checking that gate every other turn, just to make sure it is really locked.
Again, I have to haze her into a pen and trap her to catch her. I get her saddled and ride her first down the drive way. Then, the prospective buyer gets on and rides her for a while...really likes her, likes her fingertip control, likes her size... decides he wants her. He is from out of state so I explain that I must get a brand inspection (his legal bill of sale) and my inspector is usually three days out. We strike the deal, and I tell him I will deliver the mare to him once the inspection is secured.
The man leaves. I untack the mare, I tell her she is sold and will be leaving on the weekend for her new home. I turn her back out, and she again runs neighing to her pasturemates.
Saturday morning arrives. Rick starts the truck to hook up the trailer while I feed all the other horses. Before he can even get all the way backed up to the trailer...my mare bolts to the far end of the pasture and begins to pace the gate. This mare is the no. 2 mare in the herd and as much a chow hound as any horse here. I'm out with the hay cart feeding...horses are lined up at their feeders waiting...but not the gray mare...she's down pasture pacing the gate.
Now...you can try and tell me..that mare had no clue of what was going on.
You can try and explain the actions of the mare any way you like...but I'm going to tell you right now....that mare UNDERSTOOD she was about to leave. She surely did not want to go... she was showing me this the best way she knew how. Again, I had to trap her to catch her... Those of you who have ridden with me, know that all I have to do is open the trailer door, and my horse will "self-load" all by herself. NOT so today...she refused and refused to get in the trailer. My chow hound mare, who would normally eat a manger full of hay on a three hour trip..did not touch her feed. When I unloaded her, she wouldn't even look at me... her head was hanging as I handed her lead to her new owner...
Now...you can say she was tired from the trip, or you can say that she wasn't feeling well and thats why she was acting like that....BUT...I KNOW she ...understood.... we were parting company.
You can call me a loon if you like... but I will forever remember what a sad day it was for my gray mare.
Cindy
02-20-2006, 08:14 PM
That story does not suprise me at all. Horses know what is going on. I have seen them pick who they want to buy them and more often pick who they do not want to buy them. I have seen them change to totally different personallities with different owners or in different barns. They really do what they feel necessary to pick the place that they want to be in life. They are far smarter and more manipulative than we are. They just don't talk and don't have thumbs. Does the fact that they don't need these things make us more evolved or less? And on top of that, we wait on them hand over foot. And WE are the smart ones? Yeah, right.
Terri
02-20-2006, 08:51 PM
Maybe there was just something really, really interesting at the back gate.
Some horses are more "talky" than others. Mico has no problem making his desires or complaints know. One cold rainy day I put the hay out for the horses to eat and they all went out and started eating. All, except Mico, he watched the rest go, saw them eating in the usual spot, came back in, whinnied loudly and and banged the door. He got upset and I ran back in the barn to see what was the matter. I threw some hay in his stall to see if that would quiet him. Yep, dropped his head and started eating. He wanted HIS hay inside where it was nice. Or maybe he is just spoiled.
I do believe you can "read" a horse's body language and get a feel for what is going on. But horse communicator stuff??? I read an article about a horse communicator. She told various owners that the horse didn't like the color of their cloths, had been embarrassed in front of the other horses as a baby, had a bad dream....and charged $60 per hour. I don't think so.
Terry Wallace
02-20-2006, 08:57 PM
I don't know about animal communicators or people posing as animal communicators...
My question for that $60.00 an hour so-called communicator would have been...what COLORS does the horse not like....? (Since the range of color a horse sees is very limited).
Some people are out there just trying to make money off others any way they can...
motorgypsy
02-21-2006, 12:02 AM
Just because you don't speak or understand Spanish doesn't mean it doesn't exist and that others don't understand it or speak it.
No we aren't into poltegeists, mediums, ghosts, prognosticators, etc. The premise that our life essence stays intact after death does not seem reasonable. It's seems that it would be more like an ice cube melting and going back into the lake and reforming into a different shape and place the next winter.
I'm a physicist who came through the period where the atom was split and on to quantum theory, general relativity, the big bang and in other areas, plate tectonics, space travel and all sorts of things that are so far out that if there weren't definitive evidence proving that they are true or have hapened as well as can be proved, noone could possibly believe it.
This is why knowing that the brain and the entire body is an electomagnetic device - both transmitter and receiver, there is no reason that another animal cannot communicate by some means other than speech, sound, touch, vision and so on and flash complete ideas to another person or individual. Several marine species use electromagnetic fields to navigate. These are areas we just don't know enough about. At this point I have no idea what the mechanism is - I just know that many people experience this type of communication with other species. Pay an animal communicator??? Very unlikely. If I could do it I'd do it free because it would be a real gift and it seems to be truly obscene to profit from a gift. Ahh but athletes and other do - but somehow this seems different!
The one time we had an experience like Terry's with a different species was with out dog Wilbur. Wilbur was a fear biter and thought he was alpha and had to protect us. We had no idea how to deal with it. We loved him dearly but he was 85 pounds of no warning go for the throat menace to other people. Well on a trip he bit a neighbor on his finger, lunged at my father-in-law and bit my brother-in-law (he deserved it!) so we decided we had to do something. This happened all on the same trip by the way. We always had him on a leash and told other people to stay back form him but he gave no warning. He had never done this for three years and he was neutered and we had him from a tiny pup. Well we were going to have him euthanized but we saw an ad in the newspaper asking for mean dogs. We called the man and talked to him and he was a dog trainer who provided guard dogs for people. We met him at his place with Wilbur and Wilbur knew before we even got in the car with him that something was terribly wrong. We could look at him and see and feel his pain. It was visceral. When we got to the man's business Wilbur immediately went over and lay down under the man's chair. He knew this was his last chance. The man called us and told us he loved the dog and took him home after teaching him he didn't need to be alpha and protect them.
Oh - one other experience with Kyle. He was going to have a minor dental procedure where the gum was going to be cut away from the tooth while it was deadened and he told the dentist I'd love to watch. Normally I find anything like this interesting. When the dentist made the incision and no there was almost no blood and the area was totally dead with a nerve block, I came the closet I ever have to fainting. I had to grab the window sill. I felt the incision in my own mouth. WOW. The mind is amazing!!
reuben T
02-21-2006, 12:28 AM
There is something to the mind affecting mind thing, but have to be careful with it, too easy to get into bad things. With horses it's easy to sense what they're saying once we get to know them.
What most people don't realize, the bible does not teach that humans have a soul that superceeds death. That doctrine came from paganistic theorys that have no solid foundation. And all the teachers of it are just teaching what they've been taught. It does teach that God, the Creator, will resurect every person that's ever lived. All recieving their reward for what they did good or bad.
motorgypsy
02-21-2006, 12:41 AM
If you consider the definition of omnipotent it never ceases to amaze us how many people put limits on omnipotence. Evolution AKA changes in species and formation of new species for example is thought today to be caused by viruses changing the DNA in the germ cells. But this bothers some people who think this is a contradiction to their religious beliefs. We are all entitled to our own beliefs but an omnipotent creator by definition can do anything including create and/or control viruses to make changes in his/her existing creations. We poor limited humans are just having fun figuring out how things work and can indeed make DNA changes ourselves but again an omnipotent creator can also use humans to make changes he/she want made to his/her creations. Who knows - after all we were given a brain and the ability to make choices. Omnipotent means all powerful - NO limits on how why how many, how big, how small - no limits. Just something to think about.
CarolU
02-21-2006, 12:53 AM
This is why knowing that the brain and the entire body is an electomagnetic device - both transmitter and receiver, there is no reason that another animal cannot communicate by some means other than speech, sound, touch, vision and so on and flash complete ideas to another person or individual.
I think you've been smoking the wrong weed. :shock:
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Actually, the brain is nothing but chemicals and electrical signals and there is NO REASON it should think at all!
Which, come to think of it, probably explains why it doesn't work in many people! They're a neutron short!!!!
I think horses are a LOT better at reading us then we think....we just don't think the same way they do. Sometimes, yes, they 'seem' to connect...but just like the case with Terry, sometimes you change your body language by what is happening, or going to happen, and the horse reads us just like we read this BB. Some horses react to what they read...others don't.
motorgypsy
02-21-2006, 01:25 AM
Moving charges - either electrons or ions moving around in the body - create changing electric fields which cause magnetic fields. These magnetic fields are transmitted through space - including empty space and accelerating charged particles create electromagnetic fields which again go through empty space and through solid objects. EEG's and PET scans can pick up brain activity. Now a changing magnetic field as it passes through space will affect charges in other things. Think of the cosmic radiation that comes from the sun that messes up radio and TV transmissions. They don't make contact with the transmitters. They are interfering with the waves as they pass through on the way to the earth. It's the same principle but on a far tinier scale with our brains. This is also why they tell you not to give morphine or other opiates to people with brain injuries - because it shuts down the brain activity and gives the impression of brain death when the brain is not dead. All our little axons and dendrites transmit signals from one neuron to another by way of sodium and potassium ions (electrically charged particles) and there's lots of other stuff going on also but when they're working, you do have fields that are not confined to the body just as radio waves pass through empty space and solid objects. Now whether or not the human organism is able to detect any of these transmissions from another living organism? Who knows?? But we create fields, they're real and they aren't confined to our body.
In one program we showed our students a man who had EEG electrodes stuck to his head, not implanted, just stuck like for an ECG for your heart, was actually able to start and stop an electric train with his brain signals. This was years ago. Today with far better receptors and transmittors I would think it can be done without contact.
http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/answerplace/quickstart/newlydiagnosed/qstreatment/qstreeg.cfm
One other really neat electrical thing about the body. If you put one living heart cell in a nutrient solution it will beat. If you add another it will also beat. But if you add several individual heart cells - not connected to each other - they will all start beating together. The fields produced by their electrical acticity are "talking to each other" through the medium and the result is the beating in unison.
GeorgeGuns
02-21-2006, 02:50 AM
I could bore you all with a few stories especially about Mouse, but lets just leave it at: I've had one too many 'long distance calls' from that mare and a few others to not believe that there is a higher brain function we humans have neglected for eons, use it or lose it. How does a mother know when her infant, who is in a newborn nursery way far away, is crying? How does a spouse know the instant the other walks in the door, and calls, consistently? Who is to say our critters can't relay info too?
I have a bad habit of telling owners things about their horses, and their jaw drops. I can't help it, it just happens, a horse wants something known and they know I can receive okay, so they tell me stuff. On a few occasions its resulted in appropriate health changes, like one gelding telling me that he hated it when people made fun of him. His owner stopped and made sure everyone else did too and his heaves went away. Splain that.
Book will be out next year, lol. I got a lot of stories!
cowboy ed
02-21-2006, 10:58 AM
there is no definitive evidence proving the big bang theory.
CarolU
02-21-2006, 11:51 AM
Sure there is Ed...Look up "Fly's Eye" on the Internet.
They've been tracking cosmic rays for many years now and they prove they all come from the same place (i.e., the center of the universe)...
cowboy ed
02-21-2006, 12:22 PM
haha! refer to my previous statement. ;-)
Tami Pinell
02-21-2006, 01:04 PM
Man, is this a deep thread.....
All I can say is I have many horses here that not only verbalize what they want and feel, I have one stallion that can make his emotions clear to almost everyone that sees it....
If he wants your attention - he'll pick up his bucket and stand there at the door, banging it as hard as he can until you look at him - then he'll drop it and start slinging his head like a kid waving you to come - if you start toward him, he will bob his head up and down at a faster pace than you are walking - when you get there he will open his mouth (as if to bite or talk, whichever you want to call it) and then flip his head and neck around to show you what his "needs" or "problems" are.... most are "wants"..... if what he wishes to show you is out in the paddock, he will hurry out while bobbing the head to stand over or near it and "wave" you over. Yea - he also nickers and loudly screams at you - if you do not listen to him.... he will also do the low, deep voiced thing - but usually that is when he is happy.....
With all the trick training I have seen in the past - I believe he has learned to mimic people to get what he wants. He learned it gets him attention faster and in a more positive way than doing things that were "bad".
I'm not to sure about the mind-melt thing.... had a few horses here that I'm afraid the mind had melted long before I got them - they were not so easy to understand at times. ;-)
motorgypsy
02-21-2006, 01:31 PM
Tami it sounds like your stallion could teach Coco the talking chimp some lessons in communication. Arwen throws her food dish over the fence if you don't feed her fast enough in her estimation. My friend's stallion picked up his food bucket and threw it with three scoops of grain over the fence when my friend changed brands.
Well as my anthropology professor told one of my fellow students - "If you want to look at these fossils and say they don't exist - that's your prerogative". There's tons of evidence supporting the big bang but it's each person's choice what to conclude from the evidence. The old Testament sounds like it was written by someone who watched it happen. Energy to matter.
The fun of science is that it is dynamic - findings are constantly changing and the more answers we get the more questions we have. We draw conclusions using the information we have and when we get new information we change our conclusions. Science answers how? Religion answers why? Another of our professors said that - don't remember who but it makes good sense.
OK trekkies - it's mind "meld" not mind "melt" - although mine melted long ago after 31 years of interaction with all those 16 to 18 year old minds. Talk about high energy!!!
Must be those cosmic rays and all the electromagnetic interaction with the horse brains - or too much caffeine - has me on a roll!
Carol Nelson
02-21-2006, 04:15 PM
Ok...I know I've told some of you this story before, but I have to say that after this occurance, I'm a believer in a whole lot more than I was before.
My old mare, Danzarina, was injured by her own daughter pretty severely in a hock in 2002. She'd already capped one hock in a fit in a trailer in 2001, now this had her pretty crippled up. She took to hiding in a corner of the pasture away from everyone, head down, depressed, oblivious to all...it appeared to me she had given up and wanted to die. Several had come to the farm and advised putting her down. She developed a severe ventral edema...looked like two huge bags of fluid hanging from her belly. My vet treated her with acupuncture, homeopathy, massage, but nothing worked. She could not understand what the edema was coming from as all the bloodwork was fine. Eight weeks we battled her condition with no change in either her body or her personality. She would not respond to anyone, us or other horses.
I was on my way to Austin one day, tears running down my face, with the thought of having to put her down. My cell phone rang and it was a woman inquiring about a horse I had for sale on my website. Her name was Rae Linden...upon more conversation, she revealed very hesitatingly that she was able to heal animals at a long distance (now mind you, I had not even mentioned Danzarina). You know, I sat outside of Sam's Club and talked to this woman for about an hour and forty minutes. She was fascinating. Finally I said, you know, you might be able to help my mare...and I told her about Danzarina. She simply said to call her in a couple days and she would tell me what she'd found with my mare...she needed nothing but to know her name, her color and where we were on the map.
I returned home and surprisingly Danzarina came walking up to the fence and nickered at me. This is a mare that had done nothing but stand in a corner, head to the ground for eight weeks. I didn't say anything to my partner, a dyed in the wool ole cowboy, about the phone call but casually asked him, did he notice anything different about Danzarina? He said, yeah, actually, she came to the fence and nickered at me.
To make a long story short, in two days the edema under her belly had shrunk by half...in four days, it was gone! But the biggest change was in this mare's demeanor...where she had been kind of an aloof distant mare ever since I'd gotten her in 1998, now she was a pocket horse! She couldn't stay away from us...and she remains that way to this day. Her edema has not come back and she hobbles around pretty well on her bad hocks.
And when Rae talked to me, she pretty much had this mare's personality down pat...how could she have known the things she told me? I did not tell her anything about the horse except the injury.
Rae has since helped other of my horses, but this is the most dramatic. She's also taught me some things about healing which have worked for me.
Do I talk to my horses...oh yes, and they talk back. Sometimes I will be cleaning a pen and carrying on a mental conversation in my mind with them...only to look up and find them staring intently at me.
I BELIEVE that there is so much more to the human and animal mind than we ever can begin to know about. As I get older I've grown to have a very open attitude about such things. Until someone can prove me otherwise, why can't such things be true???
Just one thing, is the reason we refuse to believe such things...perhaps because that forces us to look at these creatures in a different perspective and make different decisions about how we handle and care for them and ultimately dispose of them???? Just a thought....
Opps, was supposed to be a pm!
Pasogirlz
02-21-2006, 06:12 PM
Ok....call me crazy....but I have actually had a session w/the famous Animal Psychic from Animal Planet. The appointment was just prior to her show airing for the first times. I had seen her on local television before and always wondered about her. Then one day a lady from my work was telling me about her friend who went for a visit and how dead on accurate she was and how shocked the lady was her encounter. Since the psychic did reading in her home and it was only a 45 minute drive for me....I decided to go just for fun.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
WOW is all I can say. I pretty much felt that I'd be able to tell if this woman was full of it or not, and planned to give NO more info necessary. She only asked the horses name and for a photo. I only had my Arab mare which I'd owned for about 15 years at that time, so I felt she wouldn't be able to fool me about much w/her. At first the session started out as I expected. She began telling me how my horse said she was a "good girl" and how she was "the best behaved horse on the farm". I agreed w/everything she told me but they could have easily been good guesses. (But everyone always DID say she was th best behaved horse)Then...she started w/more specific details on things.....like my horse wanted to know if she'd be keeping the new bit I rode her with? Well I'd been riding her in the SAME bit for the past 10 years....except the last 2 times I had tried a new one. :shock: So I asked if she liked the new bit. Then the psychic replied, "Yes, she says it feels better in her mouth because the old bit fit too loosely and had a lot of movement. The new bit felt solid and she liked it better". *She exactly described the way the old and new bits fit. :shock: THEN, my horse wanted to know where her saddle was? :shock: I answered that I normally rider her bareback. The pyschic said "I know, but she says the last few times you rode her w/a saddle and it was not HERS and she doesn't like it." Again....true. At that time I had her a different farm to be bred, and had left her saddle at the other barn. So I had twice borrowed someones saddle for a longer ride! :shock: Then we got onto the subject of her being bred. I had been having difficulty getting her pregnant and had spent much time and money on it by this time. The psychic asked me...Hasn't she has a foal before? That is what she is telling me. I answered yes, but that it had a stange freak problem and had to be put down on the first day. She then told me that my horse was afraid this would happen again, and she didn't understand what happend to her first baby. She also told the psychic to tell me thank you for staying w/her while she mourned. *Which I had stayed w/her an extra long time in the stall after we euthanized the foal. :shock: Then she told me that my horse said I had been extremely sad and what was wrong? By this time I burst into tears. It had only been one month to the day that one of my closest cousins was killed in a car accident and I had not been taking it well. I spent every weekend at the barn being depressed and hanging onto my horse.
Now the conversation w/my cat was pretty funny. :lol: He is very opinionated and bossy. He said he likes to watch me get ready in the mornings *which he does. And that I wear my hair lots of different ways but I always look good. He also wanted to know what happend to the place mat I used to have under his food bowls had gone (it has been years since I had that place mat). He said he wanted a new one....in blue please. Then he told her I have lots of boyfriends and which ones he liked better. :shock: He also reffered to time when PasoSis and I lived together w/her two kitties and how BAD their litter habits were...AND THEY WERE TERRIBLE.
She had their personalites nailed perfectly w/only a photo. :shock: I walked out of there in TOTAL shock. If I hadn't experienced it myself, I'd have never believed it. Her show does not even come close to an actual visit w/that lady in her home. I have read her book and do try to use many of her techniques to communicate w/my animals. And they DO seem to work.
One thing that she says is that animals like to be told what is going on...if you are leaving, if a new animal is being introduced, if they are going away....So yes Terry, your mare more than likely DID understand exactly what your intentions were to sell her.
Ok, you can offically qualify me as crazy now. ;-)
cowboy ed
02-21-2006, 06:19 PM
and those telephone pyschics! dont forget them! i talked to one on the phone, all i told her was my date of birth and the year, and she told me EXACTLY HOW OLD I WAS!!! amazing!! :lol:
Got Brio?
02-21-2006, 06:52 PM
Nisha always looks like shes mad at me. It only happens when I'am getting ready to ride her,and she thinks if I feel sorry for her I wont ride her. And when I give her a peppermint she perks up and whinnies sometimes. She has a lot of character for a old mare!lol
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