It's Happened Again...Calf Brought Down by Dogs

[Carol Nelson]

Again...we have to deal with this problem. An idiot woman neighbor who insists on letting her dogs roam, and who I've already warned that should anything happen to any of the calves back here, her dogs are gonna disappear... her dogs last night pulled down one of the calves behind us and were about to tear it apart. My next door neighbor happened to witness it and rescued the calf who did manage to run off with it's mother. But of course, no one knows how much damage was done to the calf.

So I made the phone call that I promised I would make (she had called me whining about us shooting dogs and wanting us to not shoot hers, so I promised her then that I would call her if I saw something happening, but that measures would be taken should she not confine her dogs). Her husband answered the phone and he did say he would lock up the dogs. But we will see...that's never deterred anyone before. I indicated to him that should this happen again we would simply shoot, shovel and shut-up.

I also sent an email to the owners of the cattle who live in New Mexico. I know what they have done in the past...they simply send the young lads over who care for the cattle, and they set out poison-laced meat and one by one the stray dogs in the neighborhood disappear.

(Oh yes, this is the SAME woman who leaves her horses stand in their own poop, in 12 by 12 pens with no shelter, and feeds them once a day...maybe! And she goes on and on to me about how much she LOVES her animals! :roll: )
I'm sorry but this just makes me SO ANGRY!!! :mad:

[Terry Wallace]

Carol...on the ranch I worked on as a young kid...they used Cyanide to kill dogs & coyotes... it was INSTANT death to any predator that apporoched the meat baits. I can rememeber riding around those sites and seeing dead dogs not 3 feet from the baits.

Its too bad people won't keep their dogs on their own property. In Colorado...no matter where you are, city, country, etc... you must conatin your dogs. Its the law. When I was having dog troubles with my neighbor, I went down to the court house to see what the laws were. How is it in Texas?

[Carol Nelson]

Oh yes, Terry, there is a leash law in this county and the fine is either $250 or $350. But out here, where you can seldom get a deputy to respond to a dog problem...the law of the land is what I said...SSS.

[cowboy ed]

yeah, carol, its a shame. but you are right, SSS, been there, done that. gotta do what you gotta do.

[PASOFAN]

gee, why dont people listen about their dogs? You have given them warning enough, if the dogs do it again, shoot.. I would.

[Jane Hurl]

Terry, cyanide is "old school" now. The problem with it's use is that it is transferrable. (I don't know what the correct word is.) What I mean is that the dog eats the cyanide and drops dead. Then the coyotes come to eat the dog and the coyotes drop dead. Then the crows come to eat the coyotes and the crows drop dead ... ad nauseum.

Today there is a new poison that is not transferrable. Can't remember the name of it, but I've used it. If you MUST poison critters, please, please find out what this stuff is and use it instead.

As to the dogs that pulled down the calf. I wouldn't wait for another attack. I'd shoot the moment I saw them on the property...and I'd not be above "baiting" them to get them on-site, if I saw them running free.

[dana]

i called the DNR up here 15 years ago when we lost a small dog to "something" that grabbed her not 30 feet from our front door one night and ran with her the length of our first forty acres.
we got her back but she didn't make it thru the night.

i hit the DNR office two days later with pictures in hand. (ranting and raving, probably frothing at the mouth) Fred let me have my say and then i brought up poison. as he pointed out, poison is nondescriminate. i could easily poison something that had nothing to do with killing my dog. and then you have the birds that come along to eat the carcasses. mainly the bald eagles we are worried about up here.

so i waited a week until hubby went to spend three days in the cities and tried to bait it into the yard. never saw a thing. but you can't bet from now on it's the SSS method around our house.

dana

[Carol Nelson]

No...no poison for me...I don't like the way they die. A bullet is most often cleaner and instant.
The neighbor who witnessed the incident said the dogs were laying in her front driveway this morning. Obviously not penned up!
I saw there was a call on my caller ID from the owner but she didn't leave a message nor call me on my cell which I had on me...tells me she's a blowhard.
Oh yes, I've already given Doug the go ahead to shoot them on sight. Not just because they're chasing something.

Ugh...I hate situations like this...I'm an animal lover...I hate to see dogs shot...it's not their faults...it's the stupid owner's, like this moron!

[Lynn]

Ya but how often has a dog that has been running and taking down animals then decieded that a human is ok game. It has happened here. Complaints from a neighbor that a dog had gone after their small dogs. One a daughter of my Lasey. Nobody paid attention to her complaints and the next time the dog was loose it attacked Lucy. Along with the bite injuries Lucy suffered a stroke from the attack.

[Minouri]

It is unfortunately that stupid people necessitate that good people are forced to do things they don't like to keep the area safe.

I don't blame you for one minute for shooting a dog that is a danger to you, your livestock or your pets. Animals who run free through the neighborhood attacking anything are only one step away from taking a child out.....

I don't know what the laws are here as far as loose dogs on your land and what you can do, but I'm going to find out incase I ever need to know.

[CarolU]

We used to have a killer cow (Wild Mary) that would attack anything (even take on people) that threatened any of our calves. We never had to worry about them.

Has anyone every tried putting a llama with cows?