Flight 93 memorial

[Mellifluous]

I know, old news - I had been keeping up with it but lost track. What do you think?

The winning entry:
http://www.flight93memorialproject.org/crescent_of_embrace.asp


Thoughts on the winning entry
http://www.zombietime.com/flight_93_memorial_project/

[paintedhorizon]

I don't know if I ever heard or not, but why couldn't the ppl that jumped up to stop the terrorists stop the plane from crashing???

[Heidi]

How many people who ride on planes know how to fly them?
It isn't as easy as it looks in the movies.

If a group had made it into the cockpit and overpowered or even killed the persons in the pilot's seats, they would still have to remove their bodies so they could take over the controls.
If there was struggling, as I'm sure there was, I bet that plane was looping loops all over the place. You think anyone could keep their feet and manage to clear a pilot's seat and gain control with absolutely no knowledge of how to fly?
I doubt it, and that is why the outcome is as it was.

I applaud the passengers for their efforts. They kept the plane from an intended target that would have killed/hurt so many more people.
Heidi

[paintedhorizon]

Oh Heidi, don't get me wrong, I applaud them as well! That was just a question I have often wondered about. :oops:

[Blameitonbrio]

I am not sure all the details myself, because I took a sabbatical from most tv after 9/11, but are they positively sure about what the passengers' plans were? I mean, maybe they were hoping that they could get control of the plane, but were prepared for the likelihood that it would be impossible.

Thanks for sharing the site; it gave me a moment to be thankful and reflect on their courage. A very moving memorial. I am not sure I will be able to watch the movies coming out this summer; I had a hard time with the t.v. movie last fall. It was like going back to the day and the days after which were so unreal. Do you remember how strange it was to see no airplanes in the sky?

[Heidi]

Oh Heidi, don't get me wrong, I applaud them as well! That was just a question I have often wondered about. :oops:
No, no... I was just saying...that is what I think would have happened.

*I thought there was something recently somewhere on tv (hubby was watching) about the black box being recovered and Arabic voices making comments about people trying to get into the cockpit and I think the people in the pilots chairs decided to crash the plane at a steep rate of descent before they were overpowered. For some reason, I am recalling that one of the voices was saying they were wounded or injured or something.*

I am like you, Jeany. I saw the towers fall on live tv when I was at work at the Sheriff's Office. The SO tv was directly across the hall from my desk. I saw/heard ev-er-y-thing...because all the officers and other staff kept returning to the tv for updates, it was constantly on. I finally had to close my door, it bothered me too much. My Uncle and Neice (who worked within blocks of the WTC towers) got out of the city okay. Other Uncle in Maryland wasn't returning calls, but he was eventually reached.
I cannot look at WTC specials, books, memorials, re-enactments, photos... what have you... I just cannot. Even when watching older movies that show the NYC skyline with the WTC towers makes me cringe in pain/sorrow. I've been on the 107th floor of the WTC, the roof, and have photos taken from that time...in addition to photos with the WTC towers in them when we visited the Empire State building some years later.
It is just hard for me to see a NYC skyline without the WTC. :cry:
Heidi

[DebJ]

If I remember correctly, been awhile, I think because they were flying so fast and so low, there was not enough time perhaps to get the plane back up, even if they did know how. It was carried alot on our local news in the next weeks and always has live newscasts when an anniversary comes up at the site. Brave people. Alot of them had phones and that is why people know what happened too. By then the passengers also knew what was going on.
We only live about an hour or so away from the site, imagine working and hearing that a plane crashed that short a distance away during all of that. Our daughter was in GA going to school and she called in a panic wanting to know what was going on up here as she was in class and did not see any of the goings on that day yet.
Alot of people just stayed home that day, fearful to go anywhere in case there were more planes coming "our" way. We were on "the List" if you wish to call it that, during the cold war as we are a city ( Altoona, PA) that has alot to do with trains, railroads, and a huge plant that repaired them. I remember as a small child the planes flying over with the air raid sirens telling you to stay inside. In the early 60's during Pres. Kennedy's rein. Sorta brought back that type of feeling till we knew more later that day.
But don't think I will be able to go see the movie, maybe I can rent it later.

[Heidi]

We are going to NYC this June for my cousin's wedding. (The Uncle/cousin that worked close to the WTC) Mom wants to see the WTC memorial and I do NOT. ...but...if she goes I will go with her and not put up a fight because it is something she wants to do and I don't want her to go alone. I'll just try to maintain myself...and if I can't, we'll handle whatever needs handling at that moment. I can try, that's all I can do...

[paintedhorizon]

I do remember from the most recent hearing that the jurors were allowed to hear the contents of the black box, being as it was the ONLY black box recovered from all the planes but they have decided not to release it to the press.

[Carol Nelson]

I agree with some of you...I don't think I will be able to watch the movies. Maybe to visit the site wouldn't be so bad, but to watch the terror and ultimate end of the movie, full well knowing what the ending will be and it won't be a good one, would be too much. Perhaps down the road several years...it's just too fresh right now.
I too have relatives who worked in or near the WTC. My nephew lives in downtown Manhatten and worked in one of the smaller Trade Center buildings across the street. He quit and moved to another company just months before the attacks.

[baileyholc]

I don't think I will be able to watch the movie. I tried to watch the doclormentry. It was hard. I watched the towers fall that day. It was breath taking. I hurt for the one that had lost loveones that day. I prayed and prayed that no one I knew was on those plains. My sister in law is alway flying. And eveytime I hear of a downed plain. I panick until I find out she is ok. I can't handle it. :cry:

[DebJ]

Our local news from Johnstown PA had a news story about the new memorial. 10% of the profits from the opening weekend of this movie will go to the memorial fund. Pennsylvania has promised 10 million dollars, and some group of Congressmen, or Senators, I can't remember which, are trying to get the appropriations committee to fund another 10 million dollars, but one guy is in charge and won't vote for it. Now of all the dumb things that get funded, you would think maybe he would want to help on this one ? Anyway, I think the total cost is 60 million, and the relatives are trying to raise the money. Seems like we need some "National" coverage on this one--get Katie Coric !!!
Just an update.