View Full Version : For Those Who Remember...Ms. T!!!
Carol Nelson
08-12-2006, 07:48 PM
Ms. T, half QH/half Paso Fino three year old filly. Her dad is double Doc Bar (Doc O'Lena grandson) top and bottom, and her mom is a Hilachas granddaughter, top and bottom.
So even though she is a cross, she is best of both breeds!
She will gray.
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She is gaited and will be ready to start messing around with a saddle.
If you're wondering about "cow saavy"...this girl has it! A young calf of our neighbor's slipped through the gate one morning, and when we found them, she had him neatly tucked into a corner. She didn't hurt him, she just was keeping him there until we could figure out what to do with him.
I love this horse... :D
PasoPerson
08-12-2006, 10:31 PM
She's beautiful, Carol! Looks like a Paso head to me. What size is she, how big are her feet compared to "regular" Paso feet?
You done good, gal, in my book!
Carol Nelson
08-12-2006, 11:20 PM
I can't take credit for Ms. T, Carolyn, I didn't breed her...and she is for sale, but the longer I keep her, the more that may not be so. She is my favorite of all of my girls.
In 2001, I sold her dam, Lacy (Joya Luciente de Vison) to a man with her Pinto colt at her side. Two years later, he called me up and asked me if I wanted to buy her back. He said she was still nursing a filly by a QH stallion that he owned in part with his brother. I said I'd come look at her, with the intent of listing her for him on commission. Well, the minute I saw the filly, which was Ms. T, I repurchased Lacy (which was fate because Lacy ultimately gave me my beautiful colt, Devante, by Rojo Tejas), and the deal was when the filly was weaned, he would come get her.
BUT this filly was wild as a jaybird. She'd been foaled in a 100 acre pasture and never touched. She was 4 weeks old when they found her. When I got her, you couldn't come within ten feet of her. She became my "project". Therefore when he called me six months later with the announcement he was coming to get her and he had a buyer in Mexico, I said to my partner, "I can't let this horse go to Mexico..." so I bought her!
Now as soon as the weather cools off, I'm hoping to start introducing her to the saddle. She's my pocket horse and will do anything I ask her.
You ask about her feet...I want you to particularly notice her feet. She has never been trimmed a day in her life. My farrier checks her every time he comes and he says he can't make her feet any better than they are. Another farrier was here one time and said he would have sworn she was about two weeks into a new trim. As for size, they are regular Paso-sized feet. She will probably top out at 14 or 14.1 H. tall but if you remember, a lot of cutting horses are small. She is very solidly built.
If I do sell her...I will probably have to order a background check on the buyers...she has to go to the best-ever home possible. ;-) :D
nmcreel
08-12-2006, 11:43 PM
Carol, Miss T looks great and her feet are great. I purchased the 1/2 QH foal of my Paso mare and he is amazing. He's a short 2 right now and I've been riding him very lightly. A good friend is working with him doing Natural Horsemanship and this colt is so much easier to handle than his mother. I rode him out of the pasture and round pen for the first time on Thursday. He was with my dogs for the first time and handled their energy great. We crossed an irrigation ditch for the first time and motored up and down steep ditches. A friend called afterwards and we arranged to go to a friends house to ride in her arena and on her trails course the next day. Again this colt did not make a misstep. On the trails course we had quail erupt around us and I screamed, but he did nothing. Then my kids started pulled a training cart around the arena. PJ happily followed them, rode up the sides, and crossed in front. When we rode the trails course he happlily went along with 3 strange horses. Finally I asked for a little speed and for the first time he gaited more than a few steps. All of this was in a rope halter with a soft feel.
This month I had to make a very difficult decision with my Paso mare. Her fearfulness under saddle became more and more apparent to me and I have a few really bad trail rides with a lot of very upright rearing including when I was on the ground. At the same time my kids were showing more and more desire to ride. Both rode her independently in an aren a a few times, but I started to stress about what would happen if they asked her for more. An old friend of mine breeds gaited mules and I made the decision for her to join the mare herd there. The mares run on two different sections which each total one square mile. The horses and mules there are very content and the Jack was rideable in a rope halter by my kids. Her website is: djbarranch.com. She has some great photos online. It's been tough even though I still own the mare, but Poker Joe is sure making up for the loss with his calm demeanor.
I hope you find a great using home for Miss T. She's a looker and the qualities of this mix are vast.
Nancy Creel
Carol Nelson
08-13-2006, 12:05 AM
Nancy, the young man who bred Lacy to get Ms. T was from Santo Domingo and he is Latino. He told me that the Latin countries are buying big name QH stallions from this country and bringing them in to breed to Paso Fino mares. They are getting cowhorses like none other.
I looked through the website you posted about...is your mare pictured there? Don't feel too bad about putting her there as I feel the life of a broodmare is the best life a horse can have! At least she will be used for something and my broodmares are pampered and well-taken care of...they are all fat and lazy. :lol:
But you mentioned the key word in your final sentence...USING...Ms. T deserves to go to a home where they will use her for what she was bred for. She's quick, she's energetic, and she's smart. She's one of those that you will be able to sit back in the saddle and let her go to work, but you'd better be hanging on to the horn! :lol:
nmcreel
08-13-2006, 03:06 PM
Cassidy is not on the webpage--DJBar--yet. The owner of the ranch took a bunch of photos of my kids posing with her and playing on her the day we took her up. She had two other Paso mares. One had a baby this August and the other had the baby with 4 really white socks earlier this year. Both of those mares were X Flying M and were pintos. Apparently in mules a little flash goes a long way with the price.
There is a guy in Canada that breeds Paso/QH crosses. He used to have photos of some on the horses on his website-www.gaitedranchhorses.com. Right now he is marketing two purebred Paso geldings. The last Paso/QH cross was listed at $7000 canadian earlier this year.
I agree about the using part. With my mare, Cassidy, I really wanted her to have a job and a broodmare on a large ranch sounded best to me. Like yours all of the mares were quite "healthy" and very content.
Nancy Creel
motorgypsy
08-13-2006, 05:13 PM
She's so gorgeous! What's really amazing is how much she looks like a Florida Cracker horse we almost bought a few years ago - but he was only two and untrained so we didn't. I'm sure Crackers have some QH since they are a feral breed from the original Spanish horses that arrived in FL with the conquistadors but you know some QH's got out there with them. They have amazing cow sense, are gaited and have phenomenal feet!. You have real treasure there as you know!!
Now you know how big designer dogs are these days - well you just need to think of a really cutsie name for a QH paso fino because she's a "designer horse"!!!
CarolU
08-13-2006, 05:20 PM
Carol, she is so pretty - and shinny!!! You take good care of your horses! She certainly reminds me of Bella, very feminine.
Carol Nelson
08-13-2006, 07:12 PM
$7000!!!! Wowzer!!! Her price just went up!! :lol:
Actually I had a guy offer me $650 for her as a two year old...I politely told him to stick it......
back in his pocket... ;-) :lol:
The young electrician who wired our new barn took a look at her and said she is definitely built for cow work. He also trains cutting and roping horses. I asked him how important was it for a high dollar cutting horse to be registered...and he told me he just sold a non-papered sorrel colt he had trained for $18,000!!!
I, of course, don't expect to get that for her...but she is worth a whole lot more than $650...IMO
Carol, at the risk of sounding like a walking billboard for Nutrena, that shine comes from the inside out. We feed Nutrena Safe Choice to all our horses two years and over. Babies get Nutrena Youth til they are two, and my hard keeper, Lacy, gets Nutrena Senior. But the Safe Choice is what brings out the shine...it's high in fats.
I've often wondered what Ms. T bred to your Bruiser would produce...for sure a real POWER HORSE!! ;-)
nmcreel
08-13-2006, 08:49 PM
Ms. T bred to your Bruiser
That would be a pretty cool combo. Bruiser would sure throw a colt with nice round rear.
Nancy
Brigitte
08-14-2006, 01:11 AM
She looks good
Pasofinoguy
08-14-2006, 01:21 AM
looken good and so shiny. Do they have show sheen in the water down there
motorgypsy
08-14-2006, 02:52 AM
Suggested name for your "Designer Horse" breed - pure paso fino X pure QH = POWER PASO!!!!!
Carol Nelson
08-14-2006, 04:24 AM
Yes, Adam, they DO!!! Wanna come??? :lol:
Motorgypsies...my Doug actually came up with a name...Quarter Pasos...hahaha! (Reminiscent of the joke: I have a Quarter Horse...Oh, well, what's the other three quarters??? :roll: :lol: ;-) ) That's ok, he's an Aggie! (You have to be a Texan to know what that is... ;-) )
cowboy ed
08-14-2006, 05:01 AM
so, really, how much do you want for her?
Carol Nelson
08-14-2006, 01:59 PM
Nasty, nasty man...you are going to make me stick my neck out here, aren't you?
Am I allowed to put her price here? Since it is not a sales post???
Go to my website below...and go to the foalpage...(click on the picture of Devante) ...she is priced with a free breeding to Rojo, but without the breeding it might be slightly negotiable.
Personally I think it's a bargain for a gaited horse of her quality...she is simply priced that way because she is not registerable in our breed.
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