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Pasogirlz
07-14-2005, 02:00 AM
Ok, let's have some fun. :D

Lets have a game where the first person (me) asks a paso related question, and then next person answers it, and gets to ask the next question, and so on.

First question..any easy one.
1.) What do you call the fastest 4 beat gait of a paso fino?

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-14-2005, 02:43 AM
paso largo

ummmmm i dunno ill give my question to anyone who wants it

07-14-2005, 12:56 PM
That all depends on what you mean by fast beause it could be fino if you are talking about fastest footfall.

I'll take it just to keep the game moving. lol

What do you get if you breed a cremello to a chestnut?

Pasogirlz
07-14-2005, 01:48 PM
So true Batman...I should have said something about the most extension. :D

That is a tough question. I will have to consult with www.equinecolor.com and get back to ya. But I would guess a palomino?

07-14-2005, 02:03 PM
Yup thats the answer. your turn to make a question.

Pasogirlz
07-14-2005, 02:14 PM
ok. ummmm...
T or F
A horse cannot be excused from a class for tail swishing.

riomyfriend
07-14-2005, 04:25 PM
T

um how bout who is the paso fino model for bryer?

07-14-2005, 10:38 PM
That is false isn't it? If it swishes to much you can get thrown out can't you?
Ok I'm gonna guess...Monarca De Besilu?

Pasogirlz
07-15-2005, 02:36 AM
I think it is F too...maybe it is different in different associations.

El Pastor is a Bryer model for Paso finos. :D

Heidi
07-15-2005, 03:08 AM
Doesn't Breyer also have a Paso Fino model called Cips? A pinto?
Heidi
I've collected Breyers since 1974 and have over 250. I can't stop.

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-15-2005, 04:00 AM
ok pasogirlz/admin its ur turn to make a question........i think........

Pasogirlz
07-15-2005, 04:02 AM
ok, this is my 3rd...I'm running out of questions. lol

Who is the famous horse that sired Capuchino?

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-15-2005, 04:05 AM
RESORTE CUARTO !!!! i think .........

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-15-2005, 04:07 AM
thats the second time i answer

but i dont know wat to ask soooo someone take the question

Pasogirlz
07-15-2005, 04:09 AM
I'm sure you can think of something Michelle... 8-)

You are right, Resorte IV is the sire of Capuchino.

Who was the breeder of Capuchino?

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-15-2005, 04:18 AM
i have no clue ill be back i have to go do some research




im thinking of who it is but i dont want to say it if im not sure so ill be back in a little while.....

Pasogirlz
07-15-2005, 04:21 AM
Finally making you think...at least for a second. lol. 8-)

PasoPerson38
07-15-2005, 06:08 PM
UM.....Fabio Ochoa?
I don't know how to spell it but sounds good to me!
OK
What foundation sire had an X branded on his shoulder, he is said to of killed people? A hint! he was white and his pfha number is ONE.

Pasogirlz
07-15-2005, 06:10 PM
PasoPerson38 - That is a tough one. I will have to research it. Great question.

And you are right..Fabio Ocho was the breeder of Capuchino. 8-)

PasoPerson38
07-17-2005, 07:49 PM
Would you like me to give you the answer? :shock:
lol come on guys this game has potential! :lol: :!:

Pasogirlz
07-17-2005, 08:05 PM
Yeah! Tell us, and then ask another question...

PasoPerson38
07-17-2005, 08:39 PM
LOL ok.....
the answer is......Mar de Plata LaCE :!: :!: :!: :D
( see a pic. on pasoregistry.com)
ok another question.......
What FINO STALLION was a son of capuchino, said to be the quickest fino horse ever, but never won much becuase he had so much brio he would blow up in the show ring. He also is known for having slightly loco babies... :shock: :D ;-) :!: :?:

Pasogirlz
07-17-2005, 08:50 PM
Another tough one!
I can only think of Capuchino offspring who HAVE been in the show ring. (I've heard all Capuchino offspring are a little tweaky)

But I'm going to guess and say Joyero I? But I really have no idea. :-?

PasoPerson38
07-17-2005, 09:13 PM
nope....

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-20-2005, 01:39 AM
pasoperson38 u keep blocking the game with all of those hard questions ....lol........can u make another question plz??? :D

Pasogirlz
07-20-2005, 02:18 AM
What she said.


Yeah, like...were not THAT smart. lol Dumb it down for us.

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-20-2005, 02:25 AM
lol :D

srjames9
07-20-2005, 02:29 AM
Tormento de Capuchino??? Impetuoso del Ocho???/ Bolivar de Sol Rey??? Expresso???

Heidi
07-20-2005, 02:52 AM
I wanna know the story of Mar De Plata killing someone! :shock:

Nito
07-20-2005, 03:13 AM
Well i think the answer to the question is Capitan but im sure he competed some?

srjames9
07-20-2005, 03:14 AM
Capitan has in fact been very competitive in the show ring as I understand it.

Fino1
07-20-2005, 03:58 AM
"What FINO STALLION was a son of capuchino, said to be the quickest fino horse ever, but never won much becuase he had so much brio he would blow up in the show ring. He also is known for having slightly loco babies".

Impetuoso del Ocho




Okay.........here's my question.......

What year had NO "Grand" National Show??? (only called a "National Show")

Judy

Kerry W
07-20-2005, 11:33 PM
~~uncle~~

Nito
07-21-2005, 12:12 AM
thats going to be hard to find out

El Indio Elegante
07-21-2005, 05:08 AM
was it 1973? The first show. I have the schedule from that year and it says grand championship

national show on it

Fino1
07-21-2005, 04:35 PM
Okay..........I'm about to post the answer to my "Show Question" BUT what's the correct answer to the "other question about the FINO stallion? I wanna know IF I was right first. Tee........Hee........
Judy

Fino1
07-21-2005, 04:42 PM
Okay........okay........Kerry has presurred me in posting the answer to my question............
Here is the answer........Now someone please tell me if I had the right answer to the other question..........
http://www.geocities.com/gracewoodpasos/scrapbook/images/viajeroLG.jpg
And yes, that is LynnG on Viajero Hermoso, a PPR! He was my VERY first Paso. What a doll he was!
Judy

PasoPerson38
07-21-2005, 06:00 PM
For all you who said capitan you are correct.
Yes indeed he was shown but he never placed to well because he would blow up so much. And he is said to have the fastest feet.....ever.
Alright where's that next question?!

Pasogirlz
07-21-2005, 06:11 PM
Well, I was gonna say Capitan, but I knew he showed...

Nito
07-21-2005, 06:47 PM
woo hoo I guess that would be me lol

which great old stallion from colombia never made the hight to compete in other words wasnt big enough to compete?

PasoPerson38
07-21-2005, 08:21 PM
I know!!!!!!!!!!!
222!!!!!
I heard that he got his feet shoed the day of the compitition and he turned up to short.
that would be a bummer! :shock:

srjames9
07-21-2005, 09:25 PM
Caribe....!!!!

Nito
07-21-2005, 09:51 PM
Nope im talking about OLD. great reproducer, one of the best out of a stallion that starts with a D , hes in rescates pedigree. no more hints lol

srjames9
07-21-2005, 10:42 PM
Desvelo had a son called Cerezo but just so you know Caribe and Desvelo existed about the same time frame and I will double check but I think Caribe existed before Desvelo and Cerezo.

Cheers,
James

Nito
07-21-2005, 10:59 PM
Desvelo (1953) is 2 years older than Caribe (1955) and Cerezo is Desvelo's son which was born in the year of 1964. Caribe only lasted 17 years while Desvelo lasted 25 years.

sorry for the confusion.




and Cerezo is the answer :smile:

srjames9
07-21-2005, 11:06 PM
Ok so I got it right and I guess it is my turn. So here is my question:

What kind of a breeding does vitral represent?

This should be an easy one.


Cheers,
James

Nito
07-21-2005, 11:18 PM
its a line breeding of the resorte line.

srjames9
07-21-2005, 11:26 PM
Yes but I am looking for the what. Hint different types of line breeding strategies.

Cheers,
james

Nito
07-21-2005, 11:29 PM
Im guessing its because of rescate on both sides of his pedigree

srjames9
07-22-2005, 12:04 AM
Yes Rescate is on both sides but what kind of line breeding created Vitral?

Cheers,
james

Nito
07-22-2005, 12:19 AM
you got me there I dont know what to say! im not the well informed on the strategies of inbreeding and line breeding yet but i know alot for a 16 year old lol

srjames9
07-22-2005, 04:09 AM
Nito:

Yes you do know quite a bit, congrats on that!!!! Ok there are three kinds of breedings: close breeding, linebreeding, and the outcross.

Close breeding is brother to sister, father to daughter, mother to son

Linebreeding is half brother to half sister; gfather to gdaughter; gmother to gson; uncle to niece; aunt to nephew; and first cousins.

outcross is one family to another with potentially no blood mix.

So now that I have given you this huge clues, can you now answer my question? Please let me know.

Cheers,
James

Nito
07-22-2005, 04:16 AM
I would say its rescate's son with rescate's grand daughter

son with grand daughter?

~ll*michelle*ll~
07-22-2005, 07:12 AM
this is 4 the capitan ques.... well actually capitan has done really well in the classes he has competed in and after all he did get 2nd place in the nationals fino stallions class a couple yrs ago...................im jus' sayin' :D

PasoPerson38
07-22-2005, 03:32 PM
I am confused! Did anyone get James's question right yet?
lol but this is fun.
Yes capitan was outstanding, but he never became a champion did he?
I ment that he never did as good as he could of done......sort of like his mind could not keep up with his finoing feet. (lol is finoing a word :shock: :D).
But I truely believe he has the fastest feet in the world.

07-22-2005, 04:56 PM
Is it linebreeding or close breeding?

PasoPerson38
07-22-2005, 05:14 PM
Linebreeding!

DSDECKERT
07-22-2005, 06:21 PM
Wasn't Vitral also on the loco side? and have somewhat crazy babies? At least from what I've heard that is! That would have been my guess.

Nito
07-22-2005, 06:58 PM
Cant be vitral because vitral was a international champion he did A LOT of competing

LynnG
07-23-2005, 12:21 AM
I believe Capitan got 3rd in Classic Fino Stallions at the 1999 PFHA Nationals if my memory is right from being there. He would step out in the rear now and then not keeping correct rhythm. I don't remember who won 1st or 2nd that year, but I did remember Capitan's memorable performance in the class. I was cheering for for him.

srjames9
07-23-2005, 05:20 AM
Nito:

Here is the answer... it is uncle to niece. So yes it is a Rescate son to a rescate gdaughter however it is expressed as I stated.

Ask your question!!!!!

Cheers,
james

Nito
07-23-2005, 07:27 PM
alright then!

this one might be easy

Who was the 2001 world champion?

srjames9
07-24-2005, 03:02 AM
Sonajero de La Esmeralda, I think

Nito
07-24-2005, 03:26 AM
yupp Sonajero de La Esmeralda

HE was a great stallion Fuera De Concurso in puerto rico
then died at a young age only leaving behind a small amount of offsprings which i own one ( esperanza de america ) which is really good what a shame he had to die.

so its your turn james!

srjames9
07-24-2005, 03:33 AM
What is la Venus father's name? Hint was the mare that started all.

James

El Indio Elegante
07-24-2005, 04:34 AM
was it eblis?

srjames9
07-24-2005, 12:36 PM
No it was not elbis. Elbis is much more recent than this. But please take another guess.

Cheers,
James

Brigitte
07-24-2005, 02:35 PM
Is it Tormento?

El Indio Elegante
07-24-2005, 02:39 PM
tormento?

PasoPerson38
07-24-2005, 05:10 PM
Yep Yep I agree...can it be Tormento??!!

El Indio Elegante
07-24-2005, 05:19 PM
the original La Venus her sire isn't listed ( might not even be regsistered) on Paso registry so i have no clue.

paso chikkaaaa.
07-24-2005, 08:57 PM
next question

srjames9
07-24-2005, 09:09 PM
The answer is not Tormento. Do you want the answer??? Let me know.

Cheers,
James

07-24-2005, 09:11 PM
http://www.creatingonline.com/online_image_editor/images/la%20venus.jpg

thats the pedigree for la venus on the old pfha cd so It should be tormento

srjames9
07-24-2005, 09:13 PM
The Venus I am referring was born on or about 1918 so that is not the right horse.

Sorry Alex.

James

07-24-2005, 09:14 PM
What is la Venus father's name? Hint was the mare that started all.

James

How can her father be the mare that started it all?

07-24-2005, 09:16 PM
I give up then.

paso chikkaaaa.
07-24-2005, 09:18 PM
do somphin else

srjames9
07-24-2005, 09:19 PM
Perhaps my english was not the greatest ..... thanks for pointing it out Alex!!!

The questions is What was La Venus' father's name? The hint: La Venus is the mare that started the paso fino as we know it today.

So what I am looking for is what is her sire's name?

Is that better?

Please let me know.

Now you have two hints: It is a horse born around 1918 and she is the mother of the paso finos from Colombia.

Here is the last hint I am going to give. All resorte horses go back to her.

Cheers,
James

Nito
07-25-2005, 12:18 AM
well in ochoas book the pedigree of venus is blank...

PasoPerson38
07-25-2005, 12:43 AM
Chaquiro Viejo?
How about you give us the answer and pick an easier question...
please please please :shock: :D

Pasogirlz
07-25-2005, 12:56 AM
Dang, these are hard. Especially if you don't have all the cool books. (Nito, I'm coming over to drool over your book. :razz: I want a copy!!!)

Nito
07-25-2005, 02:01 AM
LOL

i'll be more than happy to scan some pics of the famous horses
plus the whole book is in spanish :lol:

so james? how do we find out ?

Pasogirlz
07-25-2005, 02:31 AM
LOL

plus the whole book is in spanish :lol: ?

that's not funny...It just means more work for YOU and James when I ask you 500 questions. lol

Nito
07-25-2005, 02:51 AM
if its like that i'll start charging you for each question!

fifty cents a question.. not bad eh?

Pasogirlz
07-25-2005, 02:54 AM
if its like that i'll start charging you for each question!

fifty cents a question.. not bad eh?

Ok, I found that even less funny. :-? lol

Nito
07-25-2005, 02:56 AM
well im just playing ask me anything you want and i'll answer

Pasogirlz
07-25-2005, 02:59 AM
Nito-Just wait till I get my paws on that book...I'll have plenty to ask ya. ;-)

Kerry W
07-25-2005, 03:08 AM
You know he's laughing at our sorry selves. I can't find the name of her sire...but I'll guess Jupiter, just because it's the right time frame...I think.

LynnG
07-25-2005, 04:09 AM
Is it Congo?

Kerry W
07-25-2005, 02:05 PM
Okay James...I like good suspense as much as the next person, but this is ridiculous! :lol:

paso chikkaaaa.
07-25-2005, 02:46 PM
Tormento is La Venuses fathers name.

srjames9
07-25-2005, 05:57 PM
ok everyone keep your shirts on!!!! I am not going to give the answer completely. It is there Nito you just have to look closely. Her father comes from the same farm name as my farm name .... de los andes

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
07-25-2005, 06:23 PM
Canario?

07-25-2005, 07:35 PM
That was before DNA testing so who knows.

Nito
07-26-2005, 02:15 AM
I've searched and searched and found no answer james .... this one was REALLY hard!

Conni
07-26-2005, 09:18 AM
How about Revuelo? I have a pedigree of a colombian stallion (Dilema del 8) where Venus is listed sired by Revuelo out of a mare called Castana :?: .

srjames9
07-26-2005, 09:14 PM
No conni it was not revuelo.

Cheers,
james

07-26-2005, 09:34 PM
Is this one of those questions that has no answer?

Pasogirlz
07-26-2005, 09:38 PM
I think you might just tell us...we are running out of resources... :shock:
*Then you can tell us where we can find such information

Kerry W
07-26-2005, 09:59 PM
What if HE doesn't know?????? :shock:

srjames9
07-26-2005, 10:18 PM
Yes I do know and it is in the small book of the two book set that Fabio Ocha wrote.

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
07-26-2005, 10:22 PM
Okay...just wanted to make sure you were paying attention. ;-) :lol:

PasoPerson38
07-26-2005, 10:26 PM
James please tell us :cry:
I'll tell you what I will give you 5 bucks if you tell me :D

Nito
07-26-2005, 10:42 PM
James, is it El parrita de andes?

if not i give up!

PasoPerson38
07-26-2005, 10:50 PM
Califa
Caruso
Centauro (Viejo)
Cirano (Viejo)
Piel Roja
is it any of these 5 stallions?
if not then I am with Nito and giving up.

srjames9
07-27-2005, 01:41 AM
Ok Palomito!!!

srjames9
07-27-2005, 01:44 AM
Here is the new question...


Name the six mares that were produced by Favorita, with whom and what type of stallions they were?

Cheers,
James

P.S. This question is a walk in the park compared to the last one. I thought the ast one was obvious but I guess not.... sorry!

JD

Pasogirlz
07-27-2005, 01:56 AM
Ok, that's like 12 questions after you find the sire of each :!: :shock:

Someone is going to have to get this one right so someone else can ask questions that more people can answer. lol

I could only find 3 on pasoregistry.
Ponderosa Comparsa (Cosmos)
Ponderosa Sinfonia (Cosmos)
Ponderosa Orquesta (Cosmos)

srjames9
07-27-2005, 02:01 AM
Lori:

Are you sure you're looking at the right favorita? Hint: dig a bit deeper than Pasoregistry. Oh and begin on your own site.

Cheers,
James

Pasogirlz
07-27-2005, 02:03 AM
Tha's my point...not everyone is sitting at home with Fabio Ochoa's book to help them.....

srjames9
07-27-2005, 02:04 AM
Hey I am sitting in my hotel room in Toronto and my books are in NJ.

But again start with your own web site.

Cheers,
james

Pasogirlz
07-27-2005, 02:08 AM
Hey I am sitting in my hotel room in Toronto and my books are in NJ.

But again start with your own web site.

....like you really need them there. :roll: lol. (I know you better than that).

*Your going to make me use my brain tonight after I already retired it. :shock:

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 02:19 AM
Stabbin here...in the darkness

By Rescate: Arrogancia, La Voragine
By Resorte IV: Bahia
By Impacto: Gaitana
By Sucesor: Sucesora

That's all I could find...is this the right Favorita? By the way...very funny on what type of stallion...that is another question in itself. :lol:

srjames9
07-27-2005, 02:30 AM
Kerry:

Yes that is the right favorita. But the daughters you listed are not all correct.

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 02:47 AM
Okay...well...I don't know what's what...hard to follow this stuff when it's written down helter skelter..poor note taker :-? ...so La Espiga? Is that one? Not sure of sire.

Which did I have wrong?

srjames9
07-27-2005, 02:51 AM
Yes la Espiga is correct. Who is her sire? And you are missing one more.

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 02:54 AM
Guarapa..by Bochica????..still looking! :lol:
Hey...if I spelled any wrong..not my fault!! I'm having fun looking them up. :D

Nito
07-27-2005, 02:55 AM
wait go back !

Palomito de andes is LA GAVIOTAS father not VENUS !

srjames9
07-27-2005, 02:57 AM
Nito:

Keep reading it is in there.

James

Nito
07-27-2005, 03:00 AM
i read from resorte primero to la venus y sus decidientes TWICE and the only time they mentioned horses from Andes is one paragraph!

what page is it on?

srjames9
07-27-2005, 03:02 AM
Ok kerry:

You have the stallions, the mares with an extra one in there. Which one does not belong there? And what is special about the fathers? Or should I ask the question better ..... What is special about the "andar" - huge hint!!!!

Cheers,
James

srjames9
07-27-2005, 03:03 AM
I can't tell you what page because my books are in NJ and I am in Toronto. Sorry but I will find the page next time I go to NJ and lete you know.

James

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 03:03 AM
You sure Congo wasn't Venus' daddy???

srjames9
07-27-2005, 03:05 AM
I am sure. I studied this stuff for over six months and called Colombia several times to get information and get clarification from some old time breeders.

Cheeers,
James

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 03:06 AM
Is La Voragine the extra...a daughter of one of these mares?? Not sure about your hint...they're all del Ocho mares...I think...I'm so confused now!! Well...MORE confused now... :lol:

srjames9
07-27-2005, 03:08 AM
thats right ... la voragine is the daughter of Gaitana del Ocho. And for more Andar means way of going .... come on now .... you're almost there.

James

srjames9
07-27-2005, 03:10 AM
Ok kids of all ages .... I am off to bed since I have to be up before the sun comes up. We'll chat tomorrow.

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 03:13 AM
Fino? Don't you DARE go to sleep yet!!! :twisted:

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 03:22 AM
:shock:

srjames9
07-27-2005, 12:57 PM
They are not all fino. Which ones are and which ones aren't?

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 01:58 PM
They are not all fino. Which ones are and which ones aren't?

Cheers,
James

Now does this have to do with the "andar" thing, or is it a different question? And yes, I may be stalling for time...or narrowing down my research possibilities..but this was a killer question...and you know it! :lol:

srjames9
07-27-2005, 03:35 PM
Yes I know you're stalling for time but it is not a new question. It was part of the original, I am just giving you more tips on how to solve it and get the answer. Andar means way of going which is gait. And that makes a type of horse such as when you say a Qh is a type of horse. Does that make sense?

Cheers,
James

P.S. I know I am pushing the envelope but that is where we find the best information while making fun for everyone. I hope everyone can appreciate my attempt at transferring knowledge that normally is hard to find.

JD

Pasogirlz
07-27-2005, 03:37 PM
Well how about explaining Andar better. I have never heard of this. Got any articles handy?

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 03:57 PM
As in TyG, Trocha, Trocha Galope, Paso Fino?

I guess Paso Fino.

Nito
07-27-2005, 05:11 PM
Yeah Kerry andar is the gait of the horse.. (TyG, Trocha ,Fino , performance, etc )

so the question is now which one is fino and which one isnt fino

srjames9
07-27-2005, 05:12 PM
Yes like TyG etc.

And no kerry not all are paso fino. Which ones?

Cheers,
James

Nito
07-27-2005, 05:28 PM
La favorita II

Sucesor - Sucesora -Fino
Bohchica - La guarapa - didnt find
Resorte IV- La Espiga - didnt find

Impacto II- La Gaitana- trocha or paso fino
Resorte IV- La Bahia-fino
Rescate - La Arrogancia- fino
Piropo- Favorito - Trocha

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 06:41 PM
:roll: No clue...considering the fact that Resorte IV's mommy was a trochador...that one is debatable. I found the mares, someone else will have to stick their neck out on the Andar thang! :D

srjames9
07-27-2005, 06:46 PM
Do ya want the answer?????

Pasogirlz
07-27-2005, 07:07 PM
God Bless America....YES we want the answer. Stop the torture. lol

Kerry W
07-27-2005, 07:14 PM
One more guess..then give the answer...PLEASE!!

Sucesor TyG
Piropo Trocha

The rest Paso Fino

Nito
07-27-2005, 07:42 PM
piropo was trocha
bochica - fino
resorte iv- fino
impacto II-fino
rescate- fino
sucesor era troton

Nito
07-27-2005, 07:47 PM
and for those who dont know who la favoritaII is .... here she is

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/furtheraway971/favoritados.jpg
there shes is being riddin by Lucas Ochoa Correa in Medellin in 1980

srjames9
07-27-2005, 07:56 PM
Resorte IV X Favorita : Bahia and Espiga : Paso Fino
Rescate X Favorita : Arrogancia: Paso Fino
Bochica X Favorita: Guarapa: Paso Fino
Impacto X Favorita: Gaitana: Paso Fino
Sucesor X Favorita: Sucesora: Troton

Pasogirlz
07-27-2005, 08:21 PM
Cool picture...thanks for sharing.

srjames9
07-27-2005, 09:05 PM
Ok so here is the next question and I will not help anyone this time.


Who was the 2003 National 3 year old Fino schooling filly champion and who was her rider?

Cheers,
James

Nito
07-27-2005, 10:25 PM
hmm Mysteriosa de La Tierra and her rider was Ramon Figueroa

srjames9
07-27-2005, 10:34 PM
Which Ramon Figueroa?

Nito
07-27-2005, 10:51 PM
monchie

srjames9
07-28-2005, 01:01 AM
Outstanding ..... Now ask your question....

Nito
07-28-2005, 01:07 AM
cool lol

this one is EASY.

which is the only mare that has given three out of contest (fuera de concurso) offsprings?

Kerry W
07-28-2005, 01:30 AM
Ligia II?

Nito
07-28-2005, 02:10 AM
yes you are correct

LA LIGIA DOS was the mother of CONTRAPUNTO, PIRATA, and MONARCA. three out of 9 offsprings are out of contest what a legend :smile:

I have pictures of two of these which I will post later on

Kerry W
07-28-2005, 03:05 AM
Okay...love to see pics!! :D

How 'bout an easy one?????

What year was PFOBA founded????

srjames9
07-28-2005, 02:25 PM
i think 1964.

Kerry W
07-28-2005, 02:57 PM
No, sorry. :-?

srjames9
07-28-2005, 04:26 PM
1972

Kerry W
07-28-2005, 04:31 PM
http://www.smilies-and-more.com/pics/smilies/hands/049.gif

You got it!

srjames9
07-28-2005, 05:42 PM
next question...hmmmmmm......

What shall it be????

Resorte II is known by what other names?

Cheers,
James

jcbossa
07-28-2005, 05:55 PM
Hi all ! Nice game ! Lori, thanks for having me look into it !
I think Centauro, Kuroki and Kerensky are some of the names that Resrte II was called.

jcbossa
07-28-2005, 06:11 PM
In case my answer is correct, here's my question.

What's the name of the only stallion who has been able to sire two horses that are World Champion Classic Fino Stallions and Fuera de Concurso under Colombian rules ?

Kerry W
07-28-2005, 06:54 PM
Oh sheesh..just what we need! Juan Carlos to help JAMES with questions! :lol: Okay...how about Terremoto de Manizales?

Nito
07-28-2005, 07:06 PM
I think thats Resorte IV

Carmin and Piloto

Pasogirlz
07-28-2005, 07:08 PM
Oh sheesh..just what we need! Juan Carlos to help JAMES with questions! :lol: Okay...how about Terremoto de Manizales?

At least we have someone to answer the questions when James stumps us. :lol:

Kerry W
07-28-2005, 07:17 PM
Hadn't thought about that Lori...good point..be we're gonna have to keep 'em separated! http://www.smilies-and-more.com/pics/smilies/laughing/071.gif

Nito
07-28-2005, 07:22 PM
pictures for La Ligia II question

these are two of her three fuera de concurso sons
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/furtheraway971/contrapunto.jpg
contrapunto

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/furtheraway971/monarcados.jpg
Monarca II

srjames9
07-28-2005, 11:58 PM
Curoqui and Kerensky are the ones I am familiar with to be accurate.

Cheers,
James

srjames9
07-29-2005, 12:36 AM
Insolito de la luisa and tormento de la virginia are both out of Patrimonio del ocho and both are world champions.

Tormento de la virigina - 2003 world cup champion
Insolito de La Luisa - 1997 world cup champion

And Tormento has been declared fuera de concurso this year in the month of April.

Here is the list of world cup champions

93 Profeta de Besilu (Nevado X Profetiza)
95 Simbolo de Besilu (Monarca X Capuchina de Besilu)
97 Insolito de La Luisa (Patrimonio X Gambeta de Lusitania) F.C. 2001
99 Vitral (Terremoto de Manizales X Teoria)
01 Sonajero de La Esmeralda (Capuchino X Emeraude)
03 Tormento de La Virginia (Patrimonio X Tormenta del Desierto)F.C. 2005

So the answer is Patrimonio del Ocho.

Cheers,
James

srjames9
07-29-2005, 12:49 AM
And if my answer is correct then here is my question......


In what state of the US is Heredero de Jonseb's mother located and what is her name?

Cheers,
James

Nito
07-29-2005, 12:59 AM
La sensacion de la guala and located in florida

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 12:59 AM
Sensacion de Las Guaduas

California?

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 01:00 AM
:shock: Creepy!! :shock:

srjames9
07-29-2005, 01:02 AM
All right Kerry .... That one was easy for you!!!!

Give us a question!!

Nito
07-29-2005, 01:04 AM
isnt she in miami ?

I met her once at Rodrigo Brands ranch not that long ago.. :-?

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 01:09 AM
NO it wasn't!! It was easy for you...Mr. Show breeches!! :lol:

What year was Capuchino first shown at Nationals in the US, and what was the location?

srjames9
07-29-2005, 01:11 AM
She was sold to someone in California the last I heard and saw the videos of her farm owner. Can't remember the owners name though ... sorry.

Cheers,
James

srjames9
07-29-2005, 01:14 AM
NO it wasn't!! It was easy for you...Mr. Show breeches!!


What is this about????

James

srjames9
07-29-2005, 01:18 AM
1984 wills park, georgia

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 01:33 AM
NO it wasn't!! It was easy for you...Mr. Show breeches!!


What is this about????

James

Just funnin'...you're more dedicated to the show producers than I...not a put down. Teasing.

1984 is Correct! Location is wrong. :D

srjames9
07-29-2005, 03:14 AM
Memphis TN

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 03:43 AM
No.

Nito
07-29-2005, 04:39 AM
wasnt that in tampa?

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 11:41 AM
No. Hint...it's where Barney Fife moved to.

lisa l aka marci
07-29-2005, 01:28 PM
1984 and Greensboro!

Pasogirlz
07-29-2005, 01:48 PM
Kerry gave me the answer because she will be away from the internet today.....and no one has guessed correctly yet. 8-)

srjames9
07-29-2005, 02:30 PM
1984 and asheville, NC

Pasogirlz
07-29-2005, 02:31 PM
According to Kerry, you got the STATE right. What city?

lisa l aka marci
07-29-2005, 04:01 PM
1984 Charlotte, NC

And if it isn't that, it HAS to be 1984 and Raleigh, NC!

srjames9
07-29-2005, 04:33 PM
Yup it was raleigh NC in 1984.

Cheers,
James

lisa l aka marci
07-29-2005, 04:57 PM
YAY!

Ok - What horse had over 30 National titles between Versatility, Western and Trail classes (not sure if shown in Pleasure) over their career?

lisa

Pasogirlz
07-29-2005, 04:57 PM
You got it! ( :roll: I guess this means another 12 part question.)lol

Kerry W
07-29-2005, 06:35 PM
Poco Pataan??

lisa l aka marci
07-29-2005, 06:58 PM
Do you want a 12 part question? lol.....what color is the horse - and how many offspring does it have....oh gee - I could keep going, and going and going.....

Kerry W
07-30-2005, 12:29 AM
Have you no mercy, Marci? Me thinks the peanut gallery might need a little hint. :shock:

El Indio Elegante
07-30-2005, 07:17 PM
El Pastor? i don't know

Nito
07-31-2005, 05:32 AM
I tried looking for this info but nothing ...

im going to guess HILACHAS

if im wrong I give up :cry:

PasoPerson38
07-31-2005, 03:47 PM
Is it.......Coral LaCE?!

Fino1
07-31-2005, 05:13 PM
To the best of my knowledge, Hilachas never set foot in the show ring in the States....

As far as the answer.........I'm stumped.

But when the answer is posted, I've sure got a good question.........for you all.

lisa l aka marci
08-01-2005, 02:40 PM
KERRY got it! Wanted to see if anyone else could guess.....

Poco I believe is the 'winningest' Paso in the Specialty classes, beautiful Palomino- and he was alive up to the ripe old age of 30 or so - his daughter Lucia de Caroline is still going at 29 although she now has arthritis in her hind end.


Your turn Kerry........

Kerry W
08-01-2005, 03:07 PM
What was the name of the Disney movie featuring a palomino PPR Paso Fino?

{Special Paso Fino Trivia Geek Award, if you can name the year it was released} :D

lisa l aka marci
08-01-2005, 03:15 PM
I'm not going to answer this one - but I know it.....

Does anyone have a copy of the movie that I can either borrow and copy, or make a copy for me????? Pretty please?????

Lisa

Barbwire
08-01-2005, 04:02 PM
"Calypso, the Something-or-other Colt."

jcbossa
08-01-2005, 04:48 PM
Here's a nice question:
When (year) and where (city) in the USA were Colombian Paso Fino horses first exhibited ???

PasoPerson38
08-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Disney has a movie with a PASO!? :shock: :eek: WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT IT!?

Barbwire
08-01-2005, 04:53 PM
Do I get to ask the next question?

Pasogirlz
08-01-2005, 04:58 PM
jcbossa- Was that Dallas? 1952?


* I wanna borrow that movie too! Whose got it?

edited to say KerryW wants the full name of the movie...which I happen to know was mentioned on a thread on this BB WAY back. But I don't remember which forum. :-?

Kerry W
08-01-2005, 05:03 PM
"Calypso, the Something-or-other Colt."

That is close...but no cigar..YET! :lol:

Barbwire
08-01-2005, 05:06 PM
She said I could Kerry, so there :razz: !

Question:

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

PasoPerson38
08-01-2005, 05:25 PM
LOL
I thought this was supposed to be paso related?! lol
SO it is.....How many people could a paso poo if a paso could poo people. :roll: ;-)

Kerry W
08-01-2005, 05:28 PM
Here's a nice question:
When (year) and where (city) in the USA were Colombian Paso Fino horses first exhibited ???

The first show, or exhibition? First show was 1967...don't know what city, I'm guessing Miami???

Barbara...reread Lori's post...she reversed her decision to give you the go ahead. :twisted:

Barbwire
08-01-2005, 05:47 PM
Thanks alot Lori!

Pasogirlz
08-01-2005, 05:56 PM
lol, I felt bad for KerryW not getting her answer...Sorry BarbC. :( I have been looking for that old thread everywhere!)

Barbwire
08-01-2005, 06:39 PM
Christobalito, the Calypso Colt. It was a TV movie.

"Chago is an orphaned youth in Puerto Rico, who is supporting himself as a fruit vendor. When he's offered a job as stable boy for a wealthy rancher, he gladly accepts and moves to the ranch. There, he meets Cristobalito, a Paso Fino Palomino who is a descendant of the horses ridden by the Spanish Conquistadors. "

NEXT question....what horse played Christobalito?

Kerry W
08-01-2005, 06:44 PM
You got it...but no PF Trivia Geek Award for you!! :lol:

Kerry W
08-01-2005, 06:45 PM
I won't answer...but I posted his photo not too long ago. :D

Pasogirlz
08-01-2005, 06:48 PM
BarbC- Glad you found it! I can stop searching old posts now. lol

PasoPerson38
08-01-2005, 11:11 PM
Dang I can't find it!?
So I am just going to shoot for any palimino paso....Monarca?
Not Monarca De Besilu but the unatractive one.... :?:

Kerry W
08-01-2005, 11:54 PM
That's the one...but I wouldn't tell Barb Preiss he's unattractive...he was one of her personal favorites. :lol:

Monarca
http://www.pasoregistry.com/db/pics/Monarca.jpg


Poco Pataan
http://www.pasoregistry.com/db/pics/69147.jpg

Can you name the riders...not a real question..just for fun. :D

BTW...I've heard that Poco Pataan helped to promote the movie in some way..not sure how.

PasoPerson38
08-02-2005, 12:10 AM
WOW I got that right!? :D :shock:
I guess that means it is my turn......ok be right back!

PasoPerson38
08-02-2005, 12:18 AM
I am out of questions!!!! :shock: :eek: :oops: :!:

PasoPerson38
08-02-2005, 12:26 AM
OK so if anyone has any good questions PM ME!! lol

jcbossa
08-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Lori, that's the right answer. 6 Colombian Paso Fino horses were taken to the US for exhibition at that year's (1952) agricultural fair in the city of Dallas.

srjames9
08-02-2005, 04:55 PM
Ok now i am confused???? Who is asking the next question? And what is the question we should all be trying to answer?

Cheers,
James

Kerry W
08-02-2005, 05:02 PM
Juan Carlos thought my question had been answered, but it had not. There were two questions at the same time...see page 14 of the thread. Other than who is riding the two palominos (two different people), there is no question...so I think it is Lori's turn...unless you want to tell us who is riding the horses posted above. :D

Don't feel bad...the older you get, the more confused you get....but it matters to you less. :lol:

Pasogirlz
08-02-2005, 05:08 PM
I'm working up a good one now. Stay tuned. :D

PasoPerson38
08-02-2005, 05:32 PM
Ok Lori
I will post one while you are thinking so we can keep things moving......

What is the exact date when was Resorte IV was declared out of contest?

(thanks Nito :D ;-))

jcbossa
08-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Resorte IV was declared Fuera de Concurso in 1979 in Bogotà, but I'm not sure of the exact date.

PasoPerson38
08-02-2005, 11:26 PM
Nope.....at least not from my sources.

srjames9
08-03-2005, 12:32 AM
1979 is the right year.

PasoPerson38
08-03-2005, 12:55 AM
ok then the date?

Nito
08-03-2005, 12:56 AM
I guess we got them good :D

PasoPerson38
08-03-2005, 01:35 AM
lol good going Nito :D

paso chikkaaaa.
08-03-2005, 02:03 AM
wow you guys ask tuff ???

Nito
08-04-2005, 01:01 AM
AWW cmon on now! dont let this game die now!

srjames9
08-04-2005, 01:49 AM
resorte IV was declared fuera de concurso at the show in bogota. This show is usually in February so my guess is Feb 4, 1979.

Kerry W
08-04-2005, 02:25 PM
If James isn't right, I think it's safe to say we ain't gettin' it. So how about giving us the answer???

jcbossa
08-04-2005, 06:06 PM
I called the person in charge of statistics at Fedequinas, and she couldn't give me the exact date, they're looking for the document in which he was declared F.C., so when they find that, a 26 year old document, I'll give you the exact answer.

I'm thinking up a new question to keep the game going on.

Pasogirlz
08-04-2005, 09:58 PM
Cutieblueeyes...I'm with you...these are tough.

http://www.redphage.com/smilies/headscratch.gif

Nito
08-04-2005, 11:42 PM
ALRIGHT! wait no more :D im going to answer

well Resorte IV was declared Fuera de concurso November 30 ,1980

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/furtheraway971/resorte.jpg

jcbossa
08-05-2005, 02:47 PM
Wow, Nito ! Where did you get that !!! Very resourceful !
What's your next question ?????

Nice job.

Juan Carlos

PasoPerson38
08-05-2005, 04:08 PM
Nito I am glad you answered because people were getting frisky, lol don't want to be the one who starts a fight.
Those papers are so cool! :shock: :D

Nito
08-05-2005, 10:21 PM
LOL I have to give thanks to my Fabio Ochoa books! lol if not i'll be clueless :D

ok easy one to keep this moving


How many years did Capuchino win National Champion and what years?

PasoPerson38
08-06-2005, 12:39 AM
UM.....I would have to saw 2 years in a row.....'86 and '87
maybe 3 years in a row.....'85, '86, & '87
I could not find it but I got this out of memory.

Nito
08-06-2005, 01:07 AM
close but ERRR wrong.

you're missing something

08-06-2005, 11:34 AM
4 years in a row:
1984, 1985, 1986, and 1987.

Nito
08-07-2005, 02:46 AM
Correct!

Its you're turn! :D

08-07-2005, 12:15 PM
Yay!

Name all the Regions in america(like Southern region) and what state they are in.

Kerry W
08-08-2005, 05:31 PM
California
Deep South
Everglades
Florida
Georgia
Great Lakes
Great Western
Gulf
High Plains
Kentucky
Mason-Dixon
Mid-America
Northeast
Northwest
Ozark Empire
Piedmont
Southern Regional
Southwestern
Sunshine
Tennessee Valley

Colombia and Eastern Canada are regions in the Americas as well, so I'm including them. As far as states...most regions encompass more than one state, so not all regions are associated with one particular state.

08-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Good job
your turn