Puerto Rican eyes on horses

[El Indio Elegante]

I know of a horse that is pure puerto rican and she has puerto rican eyes. She never passed it on to any of her babies unfortunately. Does anyone else have a paso with the light colored eyes.

[Pasomom]

I'm not sure I know what Puerto Rican eyes look like? You said they are "light"? what color light? Brown, blue? How light are they? got any pix?

Help us out here...... :lol:

Thanks, Pasomom

[SandyMM]

Puerto Rican eyes

Some PR Pasos have amber colored eyes - sometimes called 'goat eyes' - rather unusual. I'll see if I can find any pictures of these to post.

My mare isn't PPR, although has PPR blood. She's got amber eyes, although I think that has more to do with modifiers than with geography. :D

See if this is light enough for you to see.
She's a blue grulla (black + dun).

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/5528055280aggiehead.jpg

[Kerry W]

Guess I wasn't logged in after all...just love new BB's! :oops:

[Paso Matchmaker Extraordinaire]

Pretty mare Kerry! (Thanks for being patient with the new BB.)


Do puerto rican eyes look kinda like cat eyes?

[Kerry W]

Thanks Lori. Actually, her eyes may be more hazel than amber. I found a photo of a horse (PPR) who has very light amber eyes. Not sure what his lines were, I'll have to see if I can find the info. I'll post a link to the photo, as it belongs to someone else.

http://www.pasofinos.info/Calipso.jpg (if you hover at the lower right hand corner, an arrow will appear which will allow you to enlarge the photo)

This eye color, is often times associated with the champagne and the silver dapple colors, which "don't exist" in the Paso Fino..officially. There is some debate about whether or not they do. I think there are many mysteries in equine genetics yet to be sorted out.

For the most part, I don't see a huge difference in the eyes of the PPR's. Perhaps a bit more softness in their eye. They certainly weren't shy when it came to color....which may explain the thought that PPR's have a higher percentage of different eye colors. Things like that are not favored in Colombia, where they prefer the more "traditional" colors.

[Paso Matchmaker Extraordinaire]

Great picture. I am currently trying to collect pix of the old great stallions of both PPR and Col., so if you can get permission to post them here with a short bio of their info that would be great. Let me know who I should contact if you know anyone with access to these pix and could help out with an accurate article. I would like it if folks could come here and see the old horses and know what they looked like, and gaited like, if I can get video.

[Kerry W]

Well...Calipso wasn't used much...is said that he didn't have the "best" temperament! I think he produced a colt...not sure of any others. If you go to that website pasofinosinfo.com, there is contact info and she's got a lot of photos. She may take a while to respond...she is in the midst of a foaling spree! :D

[sporthorse]

the other one we had was a grullo Ricardo KM full Colombian ....had those eyes

[El Indio Elegante]

i don't have any pics but that one kerry W put on was the puerto rican eyes

[PASOFAN]

Sure do learn sompin new everyday.. Love the looks of those amber eyes.. very mysterious looking!

Very neat... :D

[Romymari]

Well, I know what you're talking about after I cast my "I dunno what you're talking about..."

We have two babies with "PR" eyes. One is buckskin with 'light brown' or amber eyes, the other is what my mom calls a smokey black. Both are diluted, the smokey black is a double dilute... can you tell my mom likes funny colors?

I do know that Puerto Rican Pasos are not the only one's with these amber eyes. There are other breeds in which, along with these funky colored eyes, their coats give off a very silky-looking, very shiny sheen. They are called Champagnes...they come in three or four colors...I think, dont take my word on it, buckskin, palomino, cremello...i think....I'd have to look it back up...but its really funky.

L.P

[Tami Pinell]

I have seen a PR stallion here in Tennessee with amber eyes - stunning horse. Named Bayamon or at least thats all I have heard him called.

[jan k]

My buckskin gelding, Northwoods Senero, has very striking amber eyes. However, he is full Colombian, Royal Oak Presidente x La Nanne de Tomaria (Juan Juan). People that I have never met, will come up to me on the street and ask about him. He really catches your attention.

[Paso Matchmaker Extraordinaire]

Jan - I wanna see some pix of your "eye catcher"!

[jan k]

Lori, he looks much like the horse in your avatar. I don't have any pictures on my computer at work, but will post one when I get home. He was born with blue eyes and they turned amber as her matured.

[Paso Matchmaker Extraordinaire]

Jan - If he looks like my Tequlia...he must be handsome. :lol:

(But I'm not the least bit partial...can you tell?)

Picture as promised. Senero is with his yearling 1/2 brother Galtero. Galtero's sire is Petrolero.

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/54363Web_100_0907_0001.jpg

And his is a close-up of Senero's eye. Not sure how well it will show up.
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/54363Web_Brad051405.jpg

[Romymari]

I like Senero's eyes! They're funky...its a good thing...

I'll have to show you pictures of the little black colt, now gelding, at our place. He was born with steel blue eyes, instead of the normal deep blue. Now they're steel grey...

L.P.

[Paso Matchmaker Extraordinaire]

Ohhh, He does look a lot like my boy. Very handsome. Love his stocking. My boy doesn't have any white.

[Stella]

I guess the most striking horse I ever saw was a pPR stallion in the '80s named, Vibrante Regalo SL, Deleite bloodlined I think, and he was a BFormas horse, beautiful...a very dark mahagony bay, not a dilute color AT ALL, with VERY light amber eyes, very VERY striking looking, even from a distance....He was last in Pennsylvania....I'll have to eventually dig up a pic of him, I dont recall if I still have it...its been awhile!

[Rusel]

An Alicante daughter, MoonGoddess has the light colored eyes.... Except they are not really amber they are more gold colored. Indians call them wolf eyes... They were blue when she was born and she was registered as a cremello..... but she's a palomino....

[motorgypsy]

The Puerto Ricans I know call them goat eyes and said Kofresi had them. Our goats have eyes the color of real lemonade - really pale - so they must have been really interesting looking.

[greyhorsewoman]

I have two buckskin mares (mother/daugher) with amber/goat eyes. Both descend from Kofresi/Dulce Sueno. They are very striking and folks are constantly taken by the intensity of the look.

[cheryl w]

Hello,

I am new to the forum. I live in New Hampshire and own 4 puertorican paso finos mares and 1 gelding.

I cannot say enough good things about this breed. I am hooked!

I have an El Indio grandson who is PPR and has golden eyes. He is a dun with flaxen mane and tail. With his gold eyes, he looks gold allover

I believe his grandfather, El Indio, had golden eyes.

I dont know if these are considered "puertorican eyes" but he has them!

[Rusel]

Here a dark colored amber eye........

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/31233Righteye.JPG

[shadowsfire]

I think its the cream gene lightening those eyes. They are very beautiful. Its not just paso Finos that have them.
I love the shimmery color of the Champagne but the freckled pumpkin colored skin not so much. Are there champagnes in the Paso Fino breed? What about Silver Dapples?

[SandyMM]

No creme gene in my bay PPR with the amber eyes....

[nellie99]

Our stud "Royal Dun" aka Adonis has those amber eyes. He is a buckskin dun. Aventajar de Lijaya is his sire (Dunalino), his dam has de Verde blood, so he was part of the Green's breeding program. His half brother by sire Amigo de Oro who is a dunalino has the same amber colored eyes.

[Hades]

ive seen them a lot in PR

;)

[pprpaso3]

Here's a couple shots of our Puerto Rican Stallion "Cale's Helado Oro" aka "Frost" showing his dreamy amber colored Puerto Rican eyes......

[BFF]

Very pretty.

I have a Paso w/two blue eyes ;)

[pprpaso3]

Frosty's son Rayito has 2 blue eyes....he is cremello. Here's one showing Rayitos eyes.......they are very pretty too..

[BFF]

This is my non pinto boy Payaso

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Rayito is beautiful, very unique.

[Pavon3307]

My mare Katy has ambered colored eyes. She is a stunning buckskin with dapples. Her eyes are spectacular...

[pprpaso3]

I love the bald face on Payaso! I think that is what causes the blue eyes on him. If the white extends over the eye the eyes are blue. Some sort of sabino pinto gene at work here if I am not mistaken.

In Puerto Rico you see a lot of this kind of coloring...I love a loud colored horse!

Does Payaso have any white ticking in his coat?

[BFF]

He has a few white hairs but most of them are around a scar he has soo I think that's why they are there.

I would love to know why and how he got his markings.

Sire is Ambar del Ocho and Dam is Carmelolita HGF

[pprpaso3]

Payaso also has the typical stockings of a sabino horse...the white is jagged not a clean seperation like your usual stockings. Somewhere in his lineage there is more sabino. It can hide and then pop up.

I have a red mare who's dam was a medium sabino. She had the tall stockings with the jagged top line and a wide blaze and pink bottom lip. She also had a lot of white in her coat around the flank and barrel and also coming out of her blaze and forehead. My mare has no socks and only a large star on her forehead but she has a lot of white hairs in her coat and more coming as she ages. She also has a coon tail. White stripes around the top of her tail head. Star is carrying the sabino from her dam and it can pop out in her offspring even though she doesn;t have a lot of white herself.

Here is a picture of Star's dam Desiree RRR a 3/4 pr mare with the typical sabino characteristics.....

[pprpaso3]

Desiree is registered as a chestnut so it may be hard for you to find out where Payaso's heavy sabino is coming from unless you have good pictures of his parents and even farther back in his pedigree. Most sabinos arenl;t registered as such. Many might be registered as Roans.

[shadowsfire]

Some smokey blacks look bay...I had one that I thought was a dark chestnut. But it was a smokey black. She produced a dark dappled buckskin colt when bred to a bay Arab. She also had lighter colored eyes.

[Hades]

PPRPASO3

your horse is what we call

Alazan, Careto, Zarco

Chesnut, White Face, Blue Eyed

he looks really nice ...

;)

[Rafael Arbelo]

This is what they are talking about ...
All of them Pure Puerto Rican Paso Finos


http://www.pasopedigreetv.com/Forum/uploaded/1087-20090117140342.JPG

http://www.pasopedigreetv.com/Forum/uploaded/1087-20090117140628.jpg


http://pasofinoforum.com/uploads/2009-01-30_004410_2009-01-30_022418.jpg


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/Yumac/Ma769gicoGPasoPedigree.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/Yumac/OrgullodelBrujoPasoPedigree.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/Yumac/VersoInternacionalInternet.jpg

[BFF]

Beautiful! Thank you for sharing.

Sherry

[Linda Y]

That is a bunch of good looking PPR horses!

[BFF]

When I search Carrera del Reino I get this picture from the website purodeaqui.com. Carrera del Reino is listed as Payaso's great grandmother. This picture does not look old enough to be her and I think my Payaso is Colombian bloodlines right?

(Silver Eagles Payaso #51968)


Any help is appreciated. Thank you!

[Carol Nelson]

My beloved gelding, Nevare Mimbrera...I laid him to rest a year ago. He was about 7/8 Puerto Rican. I miss him.

[pnalley]

Must not be Puerto Rican Eyes as my App also has amber eyes. Her iris is flecked honey & maple syrup color. Very pretty. Of course she also has the Appy characteristic of sclera showing

[BFF]

That's a great picture of a beautiful horse.

[pprpaso3]

BFF..I couldn;t find your horse Silver Eagles Payaso in Pasoregistry so can;t tell what lines he has but I bet he has some Pr lines with his coloring.

Do you have a link to his pedigree?

That mare sure looks like your horse in coloring......

[Rafael Arbelo]

Is not that they are "Puerto Rican Eyes" but rather that they appear quite often in our breed. Perhaps more often than other breeds.

[BFF]

Thank you so much for your help!

Try this link
https://show.pfha.org/pfhap/pfha770.pgm?

Also, when I search Bonita del Norte (pretty far back on his papers)
I get this link-

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pasofinoforum.com/uploads/andadura/2005-09-18_194929_La_Llamarada.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pasofinoforum.com/forum_posts.asp%3FTID%3D34&usg=__6l6QIGETGUKDc7G3Mkokzew1z3A=&h=942&w=650&sz=87&hl=en&start=15&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=mbnUkpLVU-mNFM:&tbnh=148&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBonita%2Bdel%2BNorte%2Bpaso%2Bfino%26 um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4GZHZ_enUS237U S238%26tbs%3Disch:1

Bald face & blue eyes just like payaso : )

[BFF]

Or, his Sire and Dam are both listed on paso registry

Ambar del Ocho #37,757

Carmelolita HGF #29,406

[PasoPal]

The sire of my new perlino colt has the amber eyes. Here are a few pictures of him.

[pprpaso3]

From what I can tell your horse does have PR lines. Rapido La Estrella bottom side Camelia La Estrella (dam) is Puerto Rican.
Her sire is Rafael de Estrella (a very fine stallion) Nino del Fuego x Paloma Roja.

Her dam Molita El Cid x Melodi de Amor. All these are wonderful old Pr lines.


Also Dinastia bottom side (Reina) is PR....more nice pr lines and I see the infamous Kofresi in there! Reina is Sire: Kofresi Arco Iris x La Bruja
Dam is Canaria Nochebuena (S) x Santa Rosa

Bet you have more Pr lines in your horse than you thought! Your stallion Payaso looks very PR to me even though his pedigree contains a lot of Columbian blood the infuence is there. I see he is registered "Pinto" even though not your typical tobiano coloring the sabino gene actually gives our horses the blazes and white socks that makes them so striking. Lots of chrome on a horse like yours is very appealing.

Bonita del Norte looks a lot like your Payaso but the lines I am not familiar with. Stella here on the BB owned her I see...she may be able to tell you more about her.

[Rafael Arbelo]

Here is another Pure Puerto Rican Paso Fino with "those eyes" ...
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/Yumac/AzabachedelCaribeIMG_0683LR.jpg

Let me explain that there is a trend within bloodlines of the Pure Puerto Rican Breed. In the bloodlines of Brujo de Kofresi (http://www.arsdelicata.com/cgi-bin/geneal.pl?op=tree&index=1669&gens=5&db=pasofino.dbw) and his full brother Plebeyo you'll find horses with those eyes more often than other bloodlines.

[pprpaso3]

Thanks Rafael.....see your horse Payaso does have influence from the Kofresi line as I pointed out. Boy these eyes are soooooo beautiful!

[BFF]

Thank you!

And now I know where Payaso gets his unique white markings from, he gets them from his Puerto Rican ancestors :D

All I can say is those genes must be some pretty strong ones!

[pnalley]

Rafael,
Who is the most recent horse you posted a photo of? He is stunning!

[Rafael Arbelo]

His name is Azabache del Caribe ... Here is his complete pedigree (http://www.arsdelicata.com/cgi-bin/geneal.pl?op=tree&index=1002&gens=5&db=pasofino.dbw)

[shadowsfire]

Ohh those are some interesting colored eyes. Wonder if they will find a different gene for that? Heck who would have thought that so far they have found 3 or more different genes responsible for causing palomino already? Champagne, cream, and pearl Who knows what other colors will crop up?
I love the lighter eyes, the drafts with the light flaxen color of chestnut also have light colored eyes. I think it gives them such personality.

[pnalley]

Thanks Rafael. I'm partial to the PPR since my very first Paso about 35 years ago was PPR. She was Triunfo x Riosa. Right now of my 5 Paso's I only have one mare that is 1/2 PR (out of Cleopatria) and her son who is 1/4 PR. They are the best gaited of the bunch of them. I don't need another horse, but I can sure dream:v:

Not only is Azabache's head pretty, but as a whole hes is beautiful!

[motorgypsy]

A Puerto Rican friend calls them "goat eyes". They are lovely. I would wonder though if a horse registered as cremello that has goat eyes is really not an Isabella palomino as the double dilutes have blue eyes, not pale gold.

Our Colombian dunskin mare has pale amber eyes. Would I even love to clone her. I could probably do ET but again so expensive. When I win the lottery:rolleyes:;)

Regarding palomino color, don't forget the flaxen chestnuts and the silver gene can both produce a palomino look a like. Also I've seen an app that looked like a palomino that was really genetically a bay.

[c watson]

We have a pure puerto rican gelding here with the old style gold eyes. He is 29 years young this year. I will try to get a photo to post. They are definately gold!
Cheryl

[Rafael Arbelo]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/Yumac/BayitaIMG_0222.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/Yumac/BayitaIMG_0220.jpg