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Boyd R
10-23-2006, 04:30 PM
Ok I have an OK to plan this event. Now we need committed riders
Here are the rules I have come up with. Any suggestions are welcome. Do you see any problems in these rules that are slipping past me.

Largo Event Rules

This is a timed 3 class event consisting of a one at a time largo race, Pole bending and 3D clover leaf barrels.

The top six finishers in each class will be awarded points and ribbons for placement. 6 points for first, through 1 point for sixth place. The horse and rider with the most combined points at the conclusion of all 3 classes will be awarded 1st prize. 2nd and 3rd place are also awarded.

The prize pool will be funded by ½ of the entry fees. With a guaranteed sponsored $600 if not met by entry fees. Regular class entry fee of $40 per class applies. ($120 for all 3 classes) 11 horses or more will increase prize pool from the $600 dollars guaranteed.
50% for first place
30% for second place
20% for third.

1. Largo Pole Bending This event will be run the same as a pole bending class, except at a largo gait. The poles will be placed 21 ft from the starting line. There will be 6 poles 21 feet apart. Each rider will, at a largo, proceed to the end of the poles, Revearse direction come back weaving through the poles, revearsing direction again weaving back through the poles. Revearsing a final time proceeding back across the start finish line. Rider must at all times maintain a 4 beat gait. Tendencies diagonal or lateral is allowed along with lead changes and a break while reversing direction at end poles. Any break into a canter will result in a 1 second Penalty and 1 second for every second out of gait an equal one second penalty will be added. The judge will raise a flag per one second penalty to be counted by ring steward and official time keeper. Any discrepancy between steward and time keeper will be ruled on by the judge. The order of placement will be determined by the order of lowest times placed after the penalty seconds have been added. Touching of poles is permitted but grabbing and or knocking them down is a disqualification.

2. Largo Clover leaf barrels. This event will be run the same as a Clover leaf barrels event. With the same exceptions and rules that apply for the above pole bending class.

3. Largo Race. This event will be run one horse at a time. 2 laps around the arena, it will be timed. A four beat gait will be required although tendencies diagonally or laterally will be allowed. Any break in gait that is into a faster gait will be penalized 1 second for each break and 1 second for each second out of gait.

If there is a tie in total points accumulated between any or all of the top 3 finishing horses and riders. A head to head largo race will be ran. A break in gait will disqualify the rider. The remaining riders or rider must continue. Placement will be decided by finish of riders out of gait or across the finish line.

Cindy
10-23-2006, 05:27 PM
The top six finishers in each class will be awarded points and ribbons for placement. 6 points for first, through 1 point for sixth place. The horse and rider with the most combined points at the conclusion of all 3 classes will be awarded 1st prize. 2nd and 3rd place are also awarded

I think it might be better to keep times on all horses in each event and determine the winners by the lowest total time. Doing the other way does not allow for a horse flubbing one of the races and still getting any points at all unless they place within the top six. Either that or give points for first through however many horses are in competition. That way if you have more than six horses competing the one that places seventh in any one event still gets some points to go toward the final win. Does that make sense? Don't know if I explained it well. Say if you have 11 horse competing, first place horse in any one event gets 1 point and the eleventh place horse in that event gets 11 points. The horse with the fewest points at the end of three events wins.

Boyd R
10-23-2006, 05:58 PM
Say if you have 11 horse competing, first place horse in any one event gets 1 point and the eleventh place horse in that event gets 11 points. The horse with the fewest points at the end of three events wins.

that would definitly work, I was trying to figure that out.

but when you look at any type of sporting championship type tournement. where points awarded it seems to work out.
a now place ment in one and a 1st placement in the second would still beat out a fourth and a third. I think it would even out either way. Mentally give someone more insentive not to pull out of the third race. But they would be able to do the math either way. The way I have it would go along with a ribbon placement easier.

Ohhhh but if you have different number of riders in each class would that give an unfair advantage to the worst timed riders. Consider 7 in one class and 17 in another. In my pointing they would be even going into the last race. Giving any non placing rider a better chance to qualify higher. Keeping them in the mix.

this makes my head hurt.

Mellifluous
10-23-2006, 06:00 PM
You can count me and Van Gogh in on this one - sounds like fun.

Boyd R
10-23-2006, 06:03 PM
Now for overal time. Hmmmmm. Would that not give an advantage to a really fast horse in the largo race. A lot of time would be able to be made up. Poles rewards for most agil horse and barrels would be an in between.

Boyd R
10-23-2006, 06:04 PM
Van Gogh

Am I missing something???

Heidi
10-23-2006, 06:06 PM
Van Gogh

Am I missing something???
Phoebe had an accident when struggling while tied to the trailer and has a gouge missing from her ear.

Boyd R
10-23-2006, 06:06 PM
AHHHHHHHHHH We will put you down for a stall then

CarolU
10-23-2006, 06:30 PM
I LOVE THE IDEA Boyd! I just wish I was close enough to participate!!!

I like Cindy's idea...and will add a 5 second penalty for every 3 strides out of gait. That way someone can't gallop through any of it and win. If you had a 5 second penalty for each time out of gait, someone could gallop, take the five seconds and win. 3 strides doesn't penalize single steps, like might happen turning a barrel. It also doesn't penalize those who FEEL their horse and quickly correct it.

And you better decide what 'out of gait' is...since many horses will be in trocha or stepping pace and still smooth. Make 'out of gait' a pace, trot, or canter.

And, I'd have a video camera there and tape each run, so that anyone who wanted to protest (immediately after) could be argued with.

Cindy
10-23-2006, 09:31 PM
Ohhhh but if you have different number of riders in each class would that give an unfair advantage to the worst timed riders. Consider 7 in one class and 17 in another. In my pointing they would be even going into the last race. Giving any non placing rider a better chance to qualify higher. Keeping them in the mix.


Yeah, I thought of that too. How about do it if you start out with 11 horses, first place gets 11 points and so on down the line. And always use 11 for the first place horse even if some drop out. And, yeah, I think using the fastest overall time does give unfair advantage. Doing the placement system would even the field more.

Pasogirlz
10-23-2006, 09:38 PM
Van Gogh

Am I missing something???

Mel did you know there is a stallion in Fla by the name of Van Gogh?
Van Gogh de Gualcala. ;-)