Possible trade-update...Mo's sold

[Linda Y]

The owner is bringing this gelding over tomorrow as a possible trade for Mo. His name is Rainbow's Dom Perignon. Sire is Polvorin Elegante, dam is Floresta de J-dos-C.
Have a look and tell me what you think. Remember, I don't want a show horse, just a trail horse. We will see what kind of temperment he has tomorrow. If anyone happens to know him I'd like to hear that too! :D
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[TrueStepPaso]

I can tell you.......hubba, hubba! He's adorable, looks sturdy, and has nice looking hooves....I'll take him! ;-)

[appyday]

Can you each have a weeks trial?? I am sorry Star was not for you..I would have liked MO...Too bad we have so much road between us too..thats a big factor..

[Linda Y]

I would still LOVE to trade for Misty. I don't know why, but I have this feeling that she is my dream horse. I would even come all the way there for her and bring Mo to you.
Alas to dream... :roll:

[paintedhorizon]

Looks like he has a short back and pretty straight shoulder. That can normally mean a rough gait and short strides. Other than that, I like him.

[appyday]

I would still LOVE to trade for Misty. I don't know why, but I have this feeling that she is my dream horse. I would even come all the way there for her and bring Mo to you.
Alas to dream... :roll:

Would it make you feel better to know she IS bred to Vence...and that he has taken to kicking on the trail at strange horses and Vence since she was bred....(NOT condesa or Bubba she is pastured with Bubba) We had her out twice and both times she kicked once or twice....BUT no one punished her the last girl told her she was bad when I told her to "get on her" Well I will let you know this weekend what happens...I am riding her Saturday and she is in for a rude awakening...I have the rawhide crop ready for her kickin butt..

[appyday]

Oh Linda...If I ever decide to really let her go you will be the first to know...if she really pizzes me off you know what I will do with her..it a drop of a hat...If I sold my best small horse you know what I would do with a BAD one lol

[Linda Y]

Hmmm. That is funny. Wonder why she has started kicking. Hmmm.
But it does make me feel a little better to know she is bred. I sure don't want a prego mare.
Yeah, knock a knot on her.
I have another person interested in buying Mo outright. At a much lower price. And I am getting pretty attached to him as he is getting used to living here and starting to be a real sweet boy. But I am in a situation like I was last year...no one has hay. I am silly for thinking about a trade...need to just sell him. :(

[TrueStepPaso]

Short backs are my number one preference....he looks like he's standing on a slope, so he's holding himself oddly..??

[Mellifluous]

I prefer a short backed paso over the weiner dog looking ones. His shoulder does look a bit straight but it could be the way he is standing under himself a bit on the front? Is he on a slope?

[appyday]

Hmmm. That is funny. Wonder why she has started kicking. Hmmm.
But it does make me feel a little better to know she is bred. I sure don't want a prego mare.
Yeah, knock a knot on her.
I have another person interested in buying Mo outright. At a much lower price. And I am getting pretty attached to him as he is getting used to living here and starting to be a real sweet boy. But I am in a situation like I was last year...no one has hay. I am silly for thinking about a trade...need to just sell him. :(

Its just cuz she is bred...I will cure it.. ;-)

[Linda Y]

Well, as fate sometimes does, I had a man call me just a few minutes ago and buy Mo sight unseen. He was referred to me, and I think will work out well for him. As I said, it is probably better that I sold him outright, because of how hard it is to get hay right now. But, I think that my Paint mare is starting to finally show the symptoms of navicular so I am SERIOUSLY without a horse now.
I am going to stick this money away, and start shopping again soon. This time, I will HAVE to have the perfect horse or I won't even look. I took less than he is worth, but ...oh, well...I think I am going to go cry. :cry:

[Moniece Dickerson]

He sure is beautiful!I'm sure you will miss him but you'll be happy when you find the perfect trail horse for you ;-) .I hope Mo and his new owner will love eachother and be happy together.Your friend,Moniece

[paintedhorizon]

Oh, I don't like weiner horses either! :lol: I prefer a balanced horse is all I was saying.

Linda, I'm so happy for you! Def. put that money away!

[appyday]

I dont know if I should be happy or sad for you...I buy sight unseen like that alot too..should be fine.

[Carol Nelson]

Cheer up, Linda...just when you least expect it, like now, selling Mo unexpectedly, the perfect horse for you will turn up! Congrats....and cry all the way to the bank, girl! ;-) :D

[paintedhorizon]

You know, you may have enough now to take a trip ;)

[Linda Y]

I don't know...
Hay is in such short supply here, I can't find anyone that has round bales. I can't afford to feed 5 horses bale hay every day. I think a trip will have to wait until this situaltion evens out. Just have to think about what I want to do now. I am sick, sick, sick of buying and selling horses. I get too attached to them.

[DebbieS]

You know, you may have enough now to take a trip ;)

Linda, come to SD! I really don't need another horse myself. Sounds like you need Rosa!

I'm sorry about you having to sell Mo. I sold Chex in September and I'm still a little sad, although I know he's happy moving cows.....

[Linda Y]

NoNoNo! I can't. No! Shipping would cost a thousand dollars! No.
She sure is my type horse, tho.
Nope, no, nada.

[jodiTowne]

At least it is a buyers market now and probably won't change anytime soon. Sorry he is going, but it will be OK. I too, get way too attached and would not be good at the selling/trading thing! Good luck!

[JennLM]

Congrats Linda, great news on him selling. :smile:

[Pam M]

Linda, I have plenty of hay - good hay. If you get in a bind, call me. It's not really cheap as I bought a whole semi load of round bales and had them shipped in but I would bring it to you at my cost.

[Andrea G.]

Linda - congrats on selling Mo. Take the money and find a nice horse for yourself! You can still check out the buckskin pinto you were interested in trading for.

[DSDECKERT]

Linda,

Maybe you can pick up half a trailer load of hay on the way to get the free mare????

[Camilla]

Congrats on selling him Linda...
but I'd like to go on record as saying I think you are crazy and truly beyond help! :lol:
My best show horse is my best trail horse... and I've owned some 30 or so pasos over the last several years. All that controlled brio makes a fantastic trail horse. Given a chance they will learn to settle down on the trail and they are so keen to please and up for anything. This does not necessarily happen over night but when you get a horse for 10 bucks what's the harm in spending a little time working them into more your style? ... a few trail rides down the road and most showy pasos end up being trail kings and queens... given a chance. I hate riding dull, sleepy horses on the trail. Give me some sensible brio and perky attitude anyday. But that's me and this is about you. LOL
I can't believe you could win a beautiful, fully trained horse like Mo and practically give him away and keep a yard full of horses you can't ride. Different strokes I guess. That's what is great about these horses, I suppose... there are all different ones for all different tastes. Hope you find one that makes you happy someday. Personally I think that Mo looked like a real keeper. :smile: I wish him well on his next journey. Give him a scratch for me.

[Linda Y]

You know, Camilla, I may very well regret selling him. I really think that I could have gotten my guts togehter and ridden him. Although I prefer a laid back, easy ride. But what really made me decide that he couldn't stay was that he absolutely HATES my old gelding and will beat him down every chance he gets. I just can't do that to Desi. My situation here is such that I can't seperate them without having to keep someone up in a stall. I don't have divided pastures.
I was really beginning to get attached to Mo. He is going to make someone that likes a hotter horse a good one. I also wish him well in his new home. I wish I could keep them all, but I can't. I am on a fixed income, and all these horses I can't ride use up a lot of money! :roll: But really, what would you do with 4 horses that have various health problems that will never get better? Put them down? I can't do that.

[Minouri]

Linda,

It sounds like you did the right thing. You don't need another horse you can't ride. But I do agree that I wouldn't have the heart to put down the ones I had unless they were in pain.

[Camilla]

Hi Linda,
In response to your question above.... "What would you do?"
That's a fair question... so I should be fair and try and answer it. To be honest I would need more details. Are the horses absolutely unrideable? Are they in any pain?
If a given horse is unrideable and in untreatable pain, I would probably consider the option of putting them down.
If they are comfortable but unrideable, I would do my very best to find someone looking for a pasture ornament and give them away... if i could find that.
If they have some health problem but are rideable, I would also give them away if I could to a suitable home.
The truth is... I love horses, but I also love riding. I am a rider, plain and simple. I would be frustrated beyond belief and unbearable to live with if I could not get out on the trails, year-round, all-seasons, sun or shine, snow or mud. I would do whatever it would take to make room for a horse I could ride... Obviously I would never put down a horse that is unrideable/heaith prob, but otherwise happy/comfortable... but I would do my best to find a solution to my irrepressible need to ride - for my sanity. That probably sounds selfish... but it is the truth so I shall admit it. If I had to pay someone to take a horse and let it graze somewhere else for its days... I would.
But, like I said... that is just me and this is about you and I do realize that we are all different and thank goodness for that. God forbid the planet was covered with people just like me.
I really hope you find a solution that works for you. I know you have been looking for a long time. Happy trails soon, I hope and Good luck. :smile:

[jodiTowne]

Linda...I was in your boat not too long ago. Have an old, unrideable paso with multiple health problems that cost quite the $$ each month to keep him going...but with the meds he is not in pain. He is also my buddy and a sweetheart so he will be with me 'til the end. BUT, even if I wasn't so attached to him I would be "stuck" with him. Who would want a 29 yo, unrideable horse who costs a fortune for a pasture mate...no one!! Luckily I love him dearly.

Now, I did buy me a nice gelding who I was in love with, but him and my older gelding HATED each other, so he went. I did finally find a mare who is an absolute sweety and who I can hop on and go. I don't like lazy, but don't have the time in my life for "crazy" either.

Of course, can't imagine having 4 or 5 unrideables tho...that sucks.

But, where there is a will there is away. You'll be riding come spring!

[Linda Y]

OK, the details...
Desi-25 year old gelding. I owned his sire and dam. Had him all his life. He was an excellent horse, best trail horse you could ask for, therapy horse, mounted patrol horse. Now, he has arthritis and Cushings. He is totally unrideable but his pain and Cushings are so far controlled with diet and B-L pellets.
Casi-16 year old mare. I owned her sire and dam. Had her all her life. She foundered very badly as a 2 year old. She will never be rideable. She has good times and bad times...but is pasture sound.
Nutter-10 year old Paint. Nutter was ridden too hard as a long yearling for reining training before I bought her. She was purchased when my cousin and I were going to go into breeding Paints. Her hocks are not real good now, and she is starting to show signs of navicular. She has excellent breeding and is the sweetest horse you ever saw. I won't ride her because she is rough and barely broke.
Cita-10 year old mare. I have owned her since she was 5 months old. Cita was my riding horse. On a weeklong trip to Arkansas, she stressed out, quit eating and drinking, and foundered 2 days after getting home. She is probably going to be sound again.
Fortunately for all these horses, I care very deeply for them. I would rather send off the sound horses and make sure these have a comfortable home for life. If I can't ride, I can't ride. As ,much as I would like to have a sound horse to ride, I would rather know these guys are taken care of. Like Jodi, if someone beats up on my oldsters, they go...that's it, no questions asked.
I also don't have time in my life for crazy. I don't want to have to train a horse every time I ride, and I don't want to have to stay on my toes all the time either. I don't want anyone to mow me down at the barn because they are scared of another horse. Desi almost killed my husband the other day trying to get away from Mo. I CAN'T do that to him, or myself.
So, as much as it makes me sad, Mo is gone and eventually I will find a horse that suits me. I kick myself daily for selling Prince, but I was at a stage in my life where I was scared of my own shadow. That is the past.
We will see what the future brings.

[DebbieS]

Linda, I know how you feel. I sold Chex in September. He was a naughty 4 y/o that I spent a bunch of $ on training. He was mean to my old guys and bucked me off one too many times. He now lives with a nice guy and moves cows on a ranch - I know he's happy. It was amazing how he and the buyer just meshed instantly. I ended up losing about $1000 but I'm glad I did it. Feeding time is stress-free now!

[Barbwire]

Linda, please excuse me for asking this if you have aldready posted the answer elsewhere, but, why can't you just seperate the horses with a fenceline if one is bullying the others? A couple of strands of electric is what I am talking about, it doesn't have to be post and rail or anything fancy.

[Linda Y]

Barb, you would have to see my setup to see why. I know it is POSSIBLE, but it would make it 'not easy' and I like things easy. Also, I like the wide open pasture so there is no chance of someone being hemmed up in a corner or forced into the fence. I would just rather find a horse that fits into the family than try and separate them. The 6 that are here now get along like one big happy family...no fussing, no worries about me getting run over or kicked. I can leave all the stall doors open and they will go in any time they want and I don't have to worry about someone destroying the stall trying to escape from a bully. Maybe I am asking a lot, but I don't think so. After all, there are already 6 here that are like that, so there has to be one more somewhere!
I am thinking that I will put a small paddock on the side of the barn so that a horse can be kept separate. My roundpen rotted...stupid metal panels...so it was hauled out.

[Camilla]

I understand your point of course. I have given away both bullies and the bullied. I can't stand that either.
However, it sounds like both Casi and Nutter (especially Nutter) are candidates for placement somewhere. If you really love them and can't stand to part with them, then by all means accept that and there it is. Good for you and end of discussion. However, they sound like they could be candidates for companion animals for someone. I have seen several nice people over the years looking for a companion for their own horse. Does not need to be rideable. Frankly I think the first thing we have to believe are that there are other people besides ourselves who are capable and willing to look after a horse properly. I know that horses are first and foremost herd animals, and that they will never shed tears over not seeing me again (though I will miss them), and as long as they have a horse buddy they get along with and good care... they can be ok in other places besides my farm.
I have horses that have given me long years of service that I would never part with in their old age... like your Desi.... I know I would owe them a safe, retirement and I would miss them dearly if they were gone. However, the other 2 you have don't sound like that... they are still young and will be filling your paddock for years to come, by the sounds. Someone else could love them, perhaps. It is your decision to make... I know some people really just like having horses around and have no need really to ride... and that is very ok.

[Carol Nelson]

I know some people really just like having horses around and have no need really to ride... and that is very ok.


Ha...that seems to be describing myself lately... :roll: ;-) :lol:

(after taking care of 22 horses all day long...last thing I want, or have the energy, to do is saddle up a horse to ride... :-? )

[Linda Y]

Actually, I did send Nutter out to stay with someone else. They were going to use her as a broodmare. Of course, the first thing she did is put her hind leg through a fence and about pull it off! :shock: She now has a nice scar to show for it. They loaded her up and hauled her right back to me.
Casi would be one of those that someone probably wouldn't want. She can't be bred, her feet are absymal, she is insulin resistant and has to be on a special diet. She is very quiet and unassuming, but also pretty standoffish, not a horse that buddies up to other horses at all.
If I could find the right home for Nutter, I would let her go on a lease, but she is the only one I could.

[Donelle]

Linda, as you know---I live in Carriere & I have not fed hay in 8 years. I have fed beet pulp. It is much cheaper-$12.95 for a 40lb. bag--which lasts me 1 1/2 to 2 weeks for 3 Pasos. It is much easier to store & handle for me as I have no help with these horses. My horses look great. You can get it with or without Molasses--if you are worried about too much sugar. It is at the Farmers Cooperative on Hwy. 49. You will have to start them out with a little (maybe a cup of hydrated) at first to get them used to it. Gradually give them less hay & more hydrated beet pulp until you don't use hay anymore. It has saved me a lot of time & money & the horses look good.

Donelle

[Linda Y]

Thanks for the suggestion, Donelle, but my horses...at least 5 of the 6...are already on beet pulp. Since I have an IR horse, one with Cushings and 2 foundered, I feed them the beet pulp/cinnamon/sunflower seed diet. They are all doing quite well on it!

[motorgypsy]

Beet pulp even with the molasses is really really low in sugar. After all it's what is left after the sugar is removed from the beet. It is indeed great feed!

[Terry Wallace]

Sooooo...Linda, I've been gone.... did you get the horse posted at the beginning of this thread? I have to agree with PH, that horse is very straight shouldered, and his hip drops off like a ski slope....be sure to RIDE him...he sure does not look "built for smooth"....

Have you done any horse shopping since Mo left?

[Linda Y]

No, Terry. I tried to think what you would say if I showed him to you. And right I was! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I didn't get him. He just didn't 'turn my crank', so to speak. He may have in real life, but I never saw him.
Just gonna wait a while...