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Kerry W
01-05-2006, 01:55 AM
Interesting article in Gaited Horse regarding gait genetics. Having a test kit like we do for DNA available in the very near future? Wouldn't that be something?

http://www.thegaitedhorse.com/gaitedgene.htm

Barbwire
01-05-2006, 02:14 AM
Sorry, can't read the article...can't get past the picture of that drop dead gorgeous dappled beauty at the top of the page. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/drool2.gif

Kerry W
01-05-2006, 02:39 AM
NO TWO TIMING...NOT A PASO FINO!! :mad:

He is a hunk though...isn't he? :shock:

Terry Wallace
01-05-2006, 03:44 AM
Oh Lordy Kerry...DON'T tell "Charlie"..... he thinks he has the gait gene cornered...
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...hehehehehehehehe!!!! ;-)

Kerry W
01-05-2006, 04:25 AM
Is it the one with the X on it? Or did I miss something earth shattering? :shock:

Terry Wallace
01-05-2006, 04:34 AM
You got it! Ole' "Tesio clone" himself! ;-)

Kerry W
01-05-2006, 01:05 PM
One thing I like about the X factor...the fact that it gives credit to the mares. It's amazing that the stallions get MOST of the credit for all of the good stuff. ;-)

Mellifluous
01-05-2006, 01:07 PM
AMEN - A lot of people act like the mare plays no part whatsoever into the quality of the offspring.

Brigitte
01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
So true...tssshh. Alot of times when I asked who are the parents they just tell me the sire's name..and when I ask for the dam's name they'd be like oh yeah that mare who was this and that's mare remember? Or they won't remember the mare's name :-?

Edited to add : Interesting article though, I have never really thought about the gait gene but now that it has been brought up..very interesting

CarolU
01-05-2006, 06:18 PM
It makes you wonder, if they isolated the gene(s), if people would go along with getting their horse's tested. Would you breed only to a homozygous stallion or take a chance with a hetrozygous with more action (or some other trait)?

I doubt people would want to advertise that their prize 6-figure stallion was only hetrozygous.

It reminds me of several years ago, Dave Griffith (pasoregistry.com) offered to take the videos of people's horses, digitize and time them, and determine which had the most perfect gait. (this would be pretty easy to do with computers). Not one person took him up on his offer!

So...I don't think anyone is going to offer up their DNA to find a gait gene either.

Kerry W
01-05-2006, 08:01 PM
I'd do it..will do it, just so I'll know. I don't think this is going to be a definitive factor in whether or not a horse gaits well...that is subject to so many other factors.

CarolU
01-05-2006, 08:44 PM
I did read the article...

I read an article a few years ago on color in Laborador retrievers. You would think there would be a gene for Black, Brown and Yellow, but in reality there are only genes for B (black) and Br Brown), and yellow is an absense of both dominant genes..b + br.

So what if gait is similar? There is a gene for T trotting and P pacing, but the gaited horse has neither dominant gene...and is instead t+p.

Just thinking.

Kerry W
01-05-2006, 09:11 PM
I can sense a big can of worms with this...yes...interesting indeed! :D

Polly Aulton
01-06-2006, 10:54 AM
A foxtrotter breeder has traced the lineage of her horses back to the 1600's or something like that. She has also done a study on trot vs pace and how to breed to ensure she gets a trotting horse. She believes that the gait genes are quantitative in nature. It would be interesting to find out if she is right.
Polly

Polly Aulton
01-06-2006, 11:00 AM
OMG! The horse you are admiring is a Missouri Foxtrotter. Pretty isn't he?
Foxtrotters are almost always pretty. They have consistently pretty heads and nice short backs.
Not as smooth as a paso though so you don't need to drool too much.
Polly

Barbwire
01-06-2006, 11:42 AM
His color is awesome, his confo devine, I want him. I don't care what the breed or the smoothness of gait. :lol:

Terry Wallace
01-06-2006, 11:58 AM
What a goregeous, sooty/dappled palomino! I got one here that looks LOTS like him.... will give you all a sneek peek at him come spring, when he does not look like a sooty/dappled palomino BEAR....and more like a 2 yr. old HUGE Paso Fino!!

C'mon SPRING....... ;-)

motorgypsy
01-06-2006, 01:24 PM
He doesn't look like the foxtrotters we've ridden with - not leggy enough and longer in the back. Really pretty though!!

Kerry W
01-06-2006, 01:32 PM
He's a Kentucky Natural Gaited Horse. Al Capone. One at the top of the page.

http://www.kngha.com/stalliondirectory.html

Polly Aulton
01-06-2006, 03:44 PM
Well I apologize. I thought he was one of gait gurus palomino MFTs.
Sorry about that.
Polly

Kerry W
01-06-2006, 03:49 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if they had some common ancestors Polly...they're not terribly specific about the breeds that comprise the KNGH. :lol:

01-06-2006, 03:50 PM
I agree with Brigitte

Mares not passing anything down? such a lie. I wonder who came up with that. its pretty obvious they HAVE to contribute stuff. dont they make up half of the chromosomes in the foal?

Kerry W
01-06-2006, 04:45 PM
Nito...it probably came about since the sire of a notable horse, is marketed more than it's dam. Traditionally, the sire produces more offspring. Now that we have embryo transfer...the importance of mares will no doubt be talked about more and more.