Myler bits

[Abejita]

First is there a difference in Myler and a Toklat/ Myler?Someone once told me there was..but I dont trust their judgement on anything else...LOL (kidding)
I assume that they are pretty much the same price no matter where you buy?

[Mellifluous]

Toklat is marketing myler bits now. They have merged. Go to the website, you will see.

Keep an eye out on e-bay.

[KAB]

I think the best price I found was at Smith Brothers...........

[Mellifluous]

I think the best price I found was at Smith Brothers...........


ditto - I bought mine at smith bros too, I was too impatient for ebay :roll:

[ErinC]

what are you looking for, I have one in my barn I will sell for way below market.....

[Mellifluous]

what are you looking for, I have one in my barn I will sell for way below market.....

what kind is it?

[Abejita]

http://www.casadosa.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=272
This is what they were being worked in..

[ErinC]

god knows , let me go get it and take a pic...
I just dont use it,
it was one recommended once from a TOP traininer and it is nice, but it is collecting dust.

I dont need it.

[ErinC]

Myler on one shank and Toklat on the other shank.
here is the write up on it
Ported Barrel Narrow with Flat Shank (Bit11445)

A high port bit that rolls down on the tongue and bars with pressure before releasing the tongue to cause horse to break at the poll.

Our Price: $95.00
add chain for 10.00 and hooks for 5.00 it is a 110.00 bit.
not sure why I could not get a clean crisp picture, it is clean. that is NOT rust on it, it is a coating on it for it to be sweet.




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[ErinC]

http://i10.tinypic.com/2dcc239.jpg

[Carol Nelson]

Ok...so how is this bit any better than a traditional Paso Fino spoon bit. Looks to me to be about the same severity...can someone comment on that???

[ErinC]

good question, it is sold on that link she posted, a paso web page. and
ya a "trainer of the year" recommended it .
I never used it for any real rides. I might have "packed it " once or twice but it just never worked for me. not that it was a bad bit, but I was not looking for that same reaction.

It did however work wonders on a friends mare that tried it one time , and I saw it right before my eyes, she did change frame, and move like she "GOT IT"
if you know what I mean.

[NikiGA]

http://www.doversaddlery.com/myler-low-port-eggbutt-snaffle-horse-bit-with-hooks-mb-04/p/X1-01718/cn/2099/

This is the one I use. I also like the Imus bits.

[motorgypsy]

Our guys like a spoon but the good ones are sooo expensive. About double the cost of a Myler. Our guys like the mylers also but only the ones with shanks, not the snaffles. They all hate snaffles.

[Abejita]

many of the mylers are listed as snaffles MG's..with shanks..as is the one I am looking at..Carol I cant answer that..All I know is that the one my horses were started in isnt as high as that one pic posted..I tried them both in a mild short c shank colombian bit..one will function ok (except he now chomps the bit) the other shakes her head..I am going to get the myler they were trained in for 4 months,,, :roll:

The only thing my trainer said (Rick) was that he likes the fact that each side moves independently on the mylers as opposed to the colombian or most other bits for that matter..helps to 'pick up a shoulder' for instance

[CarolU]

YES!!!! there IS a difference between Toklat and regular Myler bits. The Toklat are made in China and do not have the pattened bushing in the shank that American Myler's do. That is why you'll see the exact same bit with such big price descrepencies.

Buying an American Myler over the Tolkat is only important IF you are buying a bit with the swivel shanks, and IF you are 'good enough' that you can use and appreciate that kind of contact/touch and control. If you are a trainer and trying to pick up ONE foot or move it a hair faster, then you'll appreciate the difference. Otherwise, save the $$ and buy the Chinese one.

[Mellifluous]

OK, now I am confused.

This website is what I was referring to as far as them being the same.

I can't find anywhere online that differentiates.

http://www.toklat.com/Myler/home.html

[Terry Wallace]

Erin...whatcha want for that bit...PM me please!

How tall is the port please...? What size mouth?

[TrueStepPaso]

CarolU...could you let me know how the swivel shank (of the American Myler) is applied to certain training techniques? I'm just curious, because I'm having a bit of a hard time thinking of what that could really be worth while with...other than maybe turning and lifting at the same time....like a reining technique or something...??

I'd just like to learn som more on these bits....

Thanks.

[CarolU]

The swivel shank allows you to engage one rein and side of bit, without engaging the port of the bit or the other side at all. Not that MY hearing or gait correcting experience is good enough to appreciate the nuance of this type of control, but there are those (Jamie Drizin, Lynn Burke, others) who it does. You can use this light control to bring a let higher, hold it longer, whatever you are working on, to fix a slight off-step in gait.

If you listen to enough horses on the boards, you will notice that some horses will slam one foot down harder then the others. This kind of control and lighten that foot and even out the sound.

As for the Mylers vs. Toklats, they are both Myler bits, but the Mylers did not sell the patten for the bushing swivel to the Chinese with the rest of the bit.

It is kind of like the difference between an original Bob Marshall and a Circle Y Bob Marshall. They are essentially the same saddle, but the original BM is a better made saddle and different in cantle and pomel height.

I have nothing against the Toklat bits, believe me, I own several of them. And for some bits, the non-shanked comfort snaffles, there is no appreciable difference. But you should know that there IS a difference between those made in China and those made in the U.S.

[Terry Wallace]

The swivel shank allows you to engage one rein and side of bit, without engaging the port of the bit or the other side at all. Not that MY hearing or gait correcting experience is good enough to appreciate the nuance of this type of control, but there are those (Jamie Drizin, Lynn Burke, others) who it does. You can use this light control to bring a let higher, hold it longer, whatever you are working on, to fix a slight off-step in gait.

Precisely! That is why I like them so much and for their no-pinch crafstmanship....

Oh Erin.... PM me!!!

[CarolU]

I should also tell you that the swivel allows you to pull one rein to the side - like for flexing - without turning the entier bit and headstall like a solid bit does.

[Mellifluous]

So where do you get a "real" myler?

[CarolU]

Casa Dosa has both.

[Mellifluous]

Oh well, they don't have the one I want.

[ErinC]

Sorry Terry I was on my way to VT.
Here now....
I sold it yesterday , I had several PM's on it.

sorry .
thanks ;-)

[Terry Wallace]

Not a problem Erin...I already have some Mylers and would have added it to my training gear assortment.

[DebJ]

I got my myler from www.saddleupshop.com click on accessories, she does gaited horses and was very helpful. I told her my problem and she recommended the bit. Now, when I bought mine last summer, she also would allow it to be returned, so you can ask.
We also have bought our saddles from her, but she no longer carries the style we bought. But she is very helpful and I recommend her.

[motorgypsy]

One note - the Chinese Mylers do have independent swivel shanks. They just don't have the patented bushing the real ones do so they don't swivel as well. But we like them fine and so do our horses.