Do paso foals that gait all the time as babies have

[Pasofinoguy]

Perfect gait undersaddle.

[Boyd R]

I have no experience with babies. But I rarely see Porcy in gait in the pasture. But get on her and she doesn't miss a beat.

[Pasofinoguy]

I have been told several different things so thought i would ask everyone. My 2 fillies do gait alot at will. If there not running and need to go somewhere they travel in gait.

[motorgypsy]

From our observation the ones who gait in the pasture do gait under saddle but there are also many who don't gait in pasture who gait wonderfully and consistantly under saddle. Our speculation is the extra weight encourages gait because the horse has better support when gaiting so it's easier on their suspensories in particular.

[Pasofinoguy]

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[Terry Wallace]

None of the poll answers work for me..... Few horses have "perfect gait".

I'll just offer comment.

I'd much rather have a foal that gaits, and has a lot of natural talent, shows me that gait from day one, continues to gait as a weanling, and right on to adult life. After all..these ARE gaited horses, and I like to know they have "some".

Horses that must have their gait brought out under saddle, require more time and more training to get that gait consistant, and to get that muscle-memory "ingrained" to continue gaiting well. You would never see me pay a trainer more than 6 months..IF that long...to try and "FIND" gait on a horse...if that horse shows no gait, after 120 days of start, plus another 120 days of "ride"..I'd not spend any more money on that horse, because there are far better horses to be spending that money on!

So, show me that natural talent..because I'm not interested in finding it FOR the horse. ;-)

Way back...on the PF.com BB... a few years back... I think it might have been Elsie or maybe Mona that said, when they were kids...on the Island of PR..you didn't SEE Paso Finos trotting in the field..you only saw them GAIT. You did not worry IF the horse would gait....you already knew!

[Polly Aulton]

I'm with the "natural" gait people. It's our feeling that if they gait in the field then they will gait even better under saddle. We're not interested in a horse that you have to "work" to get it in gait. We like to see natural collection and a horse that gaits at the end of a lead line, in the field, etc.
My gelding did nothing but corto or largo in the field. We didn't know he could do anything else until he was about 18 months old. Under saddle he's exactly the same--corto and largo with absolutely no special cues, tricks or anything.
Polly

[Candice Burger]

Sorry, but I saw enough PR horses to tell you that they do not gait the same in pasture as under saddle. They will tend to gait MORE in the pasture if naturally gaited and that is all I've ever learned out of that.

A horse gaiting at liberty is not the same as a horse gaiting at hand is not the same as a horse gaiting undersaddle. The culprit? Man. Man changes the balance, the requirement, the goal.

What I have learned in PR was to watch very carefully the gait transitions. That is where the horse will reveal natural ability and how it may handle under saddle. We have owned only one PPR mare that gaited all the time. The rest run and trot like the best of them if that got them where they wanted to go sooner.

Wanting to seek natural tendencies then look for the natural tendency to gait at liberty, but I look for ability along with gait and that you will find in the gait transitions from the gallop/canter down to gait. Watch how the horse handles himself slowing down. That will tell you more. I totally ignore the gait until I see that.

Gaited horses are not paso finos. Paso finos are gaited horses with ability and phenotype. Remember not all gaited horses in PR are pedigreed and registered. There is another distinction besides gait.

[fran]

I agree with Candice about the transitions...if you want to know if a horse gaits or at least has the ability to gait,longe it and watch it go downhill or how it slows down...the gait will show then...as far as babies go,yes,if they gait,amble,pace,then they will gait under saddle...from what I've seen,the pacier a foal is,the smoother the gait when they grow up...if they trot,then they are more likely to take some time to gait naturally under saddle and they aren't quite as smooth...they will be troche first,but they will have quicker footfall and move out more...jmho...these are the ones that you should long line or BF to get that gait to show...some pasos that don't have good strong gaiting bloodlines,and the colombian blood adds that,will have a sloppier way of going and be more strung out...much more like a Rocky,not tight like a good paso should be,but they will gait nicely after some collection...when people say that their paso doesn't gait,I don't believe it,unless there is something physically wrong with it...just needs some training..and I'm willing to bet money on it...pasos have bloodlines and I believe that all pasos have the ability to gait...period....

[fran]

the question was,if a paso fino baby gaits as a baby will it gait as an adult...yes,if it stays sound,if the person riding it can ride it properly...if not,the horse may become lazy and either pace or trot,and if the rider knows that it is gaiting,etc.
and the other part of the question is,which most people answered as yes,
it doesn't matter if they gait as a baby,it will gait undersaddle...and the answer here is yes again...if the same things apply as up above...kind of confusing because you can answer the same for both parts...

[Brigitte]

My horse doesn't gait in the pasture but does so wonderfully under saddle, while another horse gaits at liberty but is less consistent under saddle. It is man's fault in my opinion, and I believe that fino SHOULD gait at liberty, that's what we all brag about right?

[Pasofinoguy]

We all hear about the babies that gait in the pasture and how great it is. But the votes so far say it doesnt matter.

[Abejita]

[/quote]We all hear about the babies that gait in the pasture and how great it is. But the votes so far say it doesnt matter.

Maybe the thoughts of the voters is more on the lines that is doesnt matter if they DONT gait in the pasture . If they DONT gait at liberty does not mean they are not going to be well gaited under saddle.

[Pasofinoguy]

If they DONT gait at liberty does not mean they are not going to be well gaited under saddle.



Now thats the question isnt it.

[fran]

do you mean gait as the four beat isochronal or whatever you call it?...no,I don't believe that a troche type horse will gait necessarily right off the bat,nor will it's gait be anymore consistent than a pacey type of paso...that usually gaits at birth...what's everybody else's experience with this?...that's pretty much mine...but will they gait,either one,??...yes,I believe most certainly,it will definitely be smoother than a trot,whatever it is...however, I have seen where a trotty horse will immediately go into gait with the rider who sits properly and knows from experience just where and what to do to get that wonderful even gait,even from a trotty horse...sometimes it's just conditioning,sometimes it's just something that clicks in...