Ghosts .. ( its long)

[Jasfino]

ok.. here goes...

Hubby has always wanted a victorian stlye home. We looked at several over the yrs.. but they never had any land offered with them for the horses... so we ended up here on the farm. Anyway..he still likes to look and hopes someday to have one to restore. So... enter an old town in western ky... close to the Mississippi River where Lewis and Clark came through all those yrs ago. There you can find the old homes in often a neglected state of repair... you know the kind that calls to my hubby.

We travel down in the area one weekend scouting around to see if any are for sale.. and there on a hill...it was. A two story home that reminded me of something right out of a scary thriller... with a for sale sign in the yard. The house was neglected.. with its top story porch hanging by a thread.. and its broken windows. Perfect ...he says. I sit in the car while he goes up to investigate. I say to myself.... I am sure no one is living in this old place. I walk up on the porch and look into window half expecting to see a ghost peering back out at me. The staircase was narrow.. nothing like I had pictured. I wanted to go back to the car but reluctantly followed hubby around the back of the house. The back screen door was open.. blowing in the wind. I decided to knock on the door... ( I know.. it was obviously empty ...but I had to knock...) and then I checked the door knob.. and opened the door to look inside. I immediately shut it as a foul odor came rushing out at me... Yuck.. I say.. and tell hubby.. Thats it.. I"m heading back to the car... and so we leave. Hubby tells me on the way home that he is going to call about it.. and set up an appointment to look at it... :shock: But..all that will have to wait till Monday.

Next evening it's late and I am coming in the door from the barn. Hubby is standing in the door to meet me.. with a wide eyed look.. not his normal... hey your home look. He then tells me that he dreamed about that house the night before ( the night we had looked at it)... and it was talking to him. Talking to you??? I said.. laughingly.. Oh really?? What was it saying? He then started to tell me that there was a small voice in his dream telling him to "please save the house... they are going to tear it down." He then told me that in his dream... he was inside the house and could see an old hand hewn staircase like in mud that went down into an old root cellar. I am laughing thinking.. he has finally lost it... and brushed it aside. He says he is going to call the realtor the next day.

Ok.. here is where it gets interesting.. anyone want to hear the rest of the story??

[PLEASURE PASOFINO]

of course!!!!!!!! you left me hanging!!!!!!!! Lets hear it......

Sounds like an interesting book too.......

waiting :roll:

[Jasfino]

ok... i warned you it was long...lol

Hubby calls the real estate agent and she tells him to go and have a look at the house. Apparently it is in such poor repair, that they leave it unlocked for any interested lookers to help themselves. She tells hubby it is a bank foreclosure.. and that they are anxious to sell it. So.. we take my brother and his wife down with us to take a look.

My excitement is building as we drive up to the old house that I now jokingly refer to as the talking house. As we pull up to the curb, we notice an old man sitting out on his porch at the house next door. He watches us get out and start to walk up to the old place and thats when I tell hubby that we should go over and introduce ourselves.. and find out what history he knows on this place. He tells us the house was built around 1860 by a German immigrant who was a prominent local merchant at the time... oh... and he just happened to mention his occupation... a butcher. My eyes widen as he tells us the story about how the house stayed in that same family up until around 1974 when the last daughter died. A man bought it and fixed it up to resale.. and a neighbor bought it. That neighbor turned out to be living right across the street from the house today. I laugh when I ask the old man the most important question in my mind.. Is it haunted?? The old man looked at me and said No... but you will be ...if you buy the place. Then he looked at my husband and said... I will tell you something.. The fella from the bank that owns the house came by the other day and was out here looking around. He told me that he thought the place ought to just be torn down! Hubby and I look at each other when we hear that piece of news. We thank the old man and go on inside for a look around.

This house is not elegant.. I am thinking as I walk into the back door. It was elegant at one time but today..it's very sad. Everyone seperates and goes looking around the rooms and up the stairs. I walk through the dining room feeling pretty grossed out from the musty smell that fills the air. Someone rings the old doorbell.. that sounds like a hand cranked telephone from yrs ago. I hear the footsteps overhead of my brother and his wife who have went upstairs. I meander around for awhile then hubby yells Jennifer... come in here... you have to see this. I walk back into the dining room where he was and there in the floor.. was a hidden door below a carpet runner. He lifted it up and there was the hand hewn steps leading down into the cellar. I freaked out!! I screamed for my brother to come down here and see what we had found. It was just like in hubby's dream. Thing is... I had walked right on that area... and didnt even know it was there. Strange. After checking out the cellar... we all head up the narrow stairs.. to see whats up there. In one of two small bedrooms, I can tell hubby is acting creeped out. I ask him what's going on.. He looks at me and says.. This is where the little girl stayed. I looked at him and said... What little girl??? He answered .. the one who was talking to me in the dream.

Fast forward to another afternoon.... when we go back to do some measurements to estimate some of the costs for fixing up this old place. The neighbor that lost the place to foreclosure comes over and introduces himself. He takes us through the house showing us things about it when my brother laughs and says.. This old place reminds me of a haunted house.. like you see on those scary old movies. It isnt haunted is it? The man turns to look at us and says in his most serious voice... "Yes... yes it is." We all look around at each other and I ask him.. Really? What have you seen? What makes you say that? He says.. Its a little girl.. My wife has actually saw her. I am dumbfounded. A little girl just like hubby said. We had never met this guy in our life and he is telling us its haunted by a little girl. He could have said an old man.. an old woman.. a ghost... but he doesnt. I ask him.. Where did your wife see her? He looked me in the eye and then started walking to the bottom of the steps and pointed ... straight to the room that my hubby said he knew belonged to the little girl. He then walked up those stairs, into the room and pointed to some writing on the wall that said.. I wish I had a doll. He said his boys saw it on there when they bought the place and it must have been there since the old days when the house was first built. Creepy..

There is more... Its unreal..

[Barbwire]

The hair is standing up on the back of my neck, please continue!

[PLEASURE PASOFINO]

Good piece of advise.......... BUY THE HOUSE!!!!!!!! and a better piece of advise..... MOVE IN!!!!!!!!


You will be GRANTED!!!!!!! if you do!!!!


keep on going please!!!!!!! this is very interesting, CAN I COPYRIGHT THIS ???????

[Moniece Dickerson]

Yes,please continue.So then did your hubby decide to go forward with the house or back off?Your friend,Moniece

[Carol Nelson]

AAaaauuuggghhh...HURRY UP...Will you????? :eek: :shock: ;-) :D

[cristy]

I want in on the movie rights!!

[swaite]

This is VERY interesting.................I got chills.

[JennLM]

waiting waiting waiting........................... something I am no good at. :D

[Heidi]

Hubby works with a man who does paranormal (ghost) investigations. They have oodles of electronic recording devices, both audio and visiual. I have seen and heard some of their recordings and it is amazing what they have been able to capture!
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[ASB.Immortality]

Ok!!!! I really want to know what you guys are going to do. Where do you all stand on it? Come on! Fess up!! I gotta know!!!!

[Carol Nelson]

Yeah...how cruel can she be...lead us this far and then disappear?????

Jaz...WHERE ARE YOU???

;-) :lol:

[Jasfino]

I am glad you guys like this story. It was so freaky when it was all going on that I got really scared about the whole thing. I still am.

Hubby was confused but felt drawn to the house. My brother suggested that we do what Heidi mentioned in her post and go down and get a tape recorder,camcorder, and camera to see if we could get anything. This is where it gets freakier...

One afternoon we go down with the equipment. My brother takes the audio recorder, I take the camcorder, and hubby takes the camera. We pull up to the old house with a mixed emotions. Something is telling me to run away.. and not to look back....and on the other hand hubby feels drawn to the house to try to discover why he had the dream of the little voice telling him to save the house. Why did he see the cellar looking just like it looked? Why did the little voice say they were going to tear the house down ....and then the old man say the banker had came out and said the exact same thing. Why did hubby get the strange feeling in the little bedroom? How could it be a concidence that the man who owned the home before tell us a ghost story about a little girl that he had named Hannah. Too many questions. No clear answers. It was beyond emotions now. We had to see if we could get the proof.

We go back down one day armed with some equipment. We are all anxious as we pull up and stare at the house on the hill. The old man isnt anywhere to be seen. It feels like something out of a ghost buster movie..as we walk up and enter the old house. My brother has the plan of leaving the tape recorder in the little girls room to see if he can get anything on tape. He walks up the narrow stairs, turns and opens the door to the small room. I am following him and we go and stand in room while he holds the recorder looking for a good location to put it down. Suddenly he jumps back and said.. Something just went by me. I look at him and said.. Sure .. cut the theatrics.. We are serious here. He looked at me with a stern face and said.. I am not joking. I know when my brother is serious and joking.. and as he looked at me then.. I knew he wasnt joking. We place the recorder in the bedroom and leave. We go downstairs and I get the camcorder and take some video. Hubby is busy taking pictures of everything.

We are joined by the neighbor across the street who had onced lived in the house. I ask him to bring his wife with him next time and he looked at me and said...She's gone. She left me while we were still living here in the house. I came home from work one day and she had packed up the kids .. just gone. I stopped to think for a moment about this man standing here before me. He had lost everything.. his wife, kids, and home. I wasnt liking what I was hearing. I asked him again about the ghost and told him we were hoping to get some kind of hard evidence. He said Oh... you will. There are too many things that went on here. She likes to move things around. You can hear her walking too sometimes. He then went into a story about how his wife had called him home from work on afternoon when she and some friends had heard someone walking around upstairs. He said he rushed home as fast as he could to find his wife and friends standing outside on the porch. He went in and checked things out. Nothing. He said he knew then it had to be the little girl. He said she would play with his kids toys at night while they were sleeping.. and that on several nights he thought it was his boys sneaking up and out of bed when he heard the toys but he would check and they would be sound asleep. Footsteps.. things being moved..hubbys dream.. all starting to work on my mind. He tells us he hopes we get the house.. and that if we do he will help us fix it up.

We go back upstairs to get the tape recorder, and hubby goes with us to where my brother felt something go past him. I am thinking draft in the old house.. but we recreate it by having him stand in the same place.. and opening shutting doors.. nothing. It doesnt help that it happened in the little girls room. We leave for home excited to learn the resuts of our mission.

Too make a long story short... we get the evidence we need. On the tape recorder we hear a voice... saying.. at first something we couldnt make out.. and then we keep listening and it says... U-whooo Chills run down my spine as I can remember my granddad saying that same thing. Something I hadnt heard anyone say in a long time. I used to be a common thing old timers would say.. U who..anyone home? Hubby gets some pictures of my brother standing by the door and in one of them it looks like a face of a woman standing behind the door. Hubby decides to make an offer on the house but I am not liking it. I am beginning to think that something there is evil. Something not natural. Its a bad feeling.. as much as I like ghost stories.. and haunted house tales... Its not something I can explain.

Hubby makes the offer anyway. I am secretly hoping it doesnt go through. He waits and waits.. no reply. I am thinking good.. everything will work out for the best.. We didnt need it anyway...really. Now my brother is wanting the place so he can do some more ghost hunting. He decides to go down one afternoon with his wife and son and take the recorder back to see if he can get anything else. Its a stormy afternoon as he enters the house. He clicks on the tape and makes a quick walk through the house. His teenage son wants to leave... and says the creepy old place scares him. He gets home and listens to his tape and hears a voice... nothing like the other little u-whoo voice. This time the voice is a mans.. and it is growling like... saying "It's a ghost...leave".

[Terri]

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[Jasfino]

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ok.. there it is...

I found a relative who verified the old mans story.... the granddaughter of the old woman who was the last member of the original family that built the home. She told me that 4 family members died in that house.

a little girl
a little boy
a sister and her mother who both died the same yr ... the same month... of TB (tuberculous spelling?)

[Carol Nelson]

I have two psychic friends...do you mind if I send this photo to them and see what impressions they come back with???
I'll post their replies...

[Jasfino]

No.. I dont mind.
I would be interested in finding out if they felt anything... :D

[Jasfino]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/jasperandsidney005.jpg


Thats me by the front door... Dont I look more than happy to be there??? I am thinking ..we just need to go.....

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Me coming down the narrow old staircase...

[Jasfino]

The scariest room in the whole house....

The little girls bedroom...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/jasperandsidney002.jpg

[paintedhorizon]

Girl, you need to tell hubby exactly how you feel. I totally believe in this and it sounds like the ghost wants to keep the menfolk all to herself. If you get this place, you may end up losing your husband!

Do you have the pic that has the face behind you?

[Jasfino]

I do... but I have to run to town right now.. :D

Be back later on in the afternoon.... :-?

[Barbwire]

I officially nominate Jas as the biggest tease on APF. Lori, please step down and give your crown to Jas.

[PLEASURE PASOFINO]

great story, great house too, wow, is in a much better shape than my house....... the only thing missing is my 14 dogs.......

[Terri]

Girl, you need to tell hubby exactly how you feel
I agree with PH on this one.

This has been a very entertaining story, however I would go carefully. Might I also suggest you discuss this with your minister. The bible has alot to say about attempting to communicate with the dead, non of it encouraging.

BTW, Love the house. I particularly like the windows to the floor. If you can rehab it, it could be stunning.

[moonrize]

wow, creepy :shock:

You guys have to buy the house so we can find out the end of this story. However, if you have really bad vibes, you need to be careful - especially if the girl ghost gets jealous of you being with your husband :roll: No telling what she might do to you.

It's weird that we often don't believe in ghosts or UFOs or other strange phenomena until something happens to us. I really didn't believe in UFOs and think that if there is life on some other planet that they're not headed here. BUT, one evening around dusk I was riding my old horse Sam up a dirt road. Straight ahead in the sky was a "plane" with red, white, and blue lights on it.

As we continued up the road, I looked up again and the "plane" was still in the exact same spot. Hummmm. Sam started fidgeting and getting all prancy as we went along AND the "plane" still hasn't moved. So I stopped Sam and just sat there and watched the "plane" hoover in the air. I started breathing rapidly and all kinds of thoughts were going through my head about UFOs and it possibly landing out here in the middle of no where and I'm by myself.... I really started getting a little freaked out over the whole thing.

So I turned Sam around and started beating feet back to the barn (about 3 miles away). Dam it that thing didn't just stay there. Frankly I actually got scared at this point. I finally made it down the long dirt road and hung a right towards the barn and looked back towards the sky to see if it was following me. From the new angle I was at, I finally could see what it really was. A plane.

Evidently I was on the exact straight course to it while it was coming exactly straight towards me - thus giving the appearance of no movement. Sigh. I almost peed my pants. And then it made me wonder at myself for thinking there could be UFOs! Maybe I should be taking some little green pills instead of seeing little green men. ;-)

[Heidi]

I don't know how dangerous the little girl ghost would be towards you...didn't she come to your family for help? To keep the house from being torn down? Maybe she feels you and your husband are the right people for her home?
The adult ghost voice saying to leave...that was directed not at you an dyour hubby, but to people the house/ghost thought were interlopers...

[Nancy Creel]

ending.

But not a spooky one.

[Carol Nelson]

I agree...the little girl is highly unlikely to be dangerous. She probably was the little girl who died of tuberculosis...and she probably died in that bedroom. They called it consumption in those days and it took many, many children. She most likely is not totally aware of the fact she is dead and should move on. Should you move into the house...it would be moreso that she would gravitate toward you as you are the mother-figure...unless of course, she was very close to her father. If you do end up with the house, and she gives you more uneasiness, you can gently tell her that she is dead, that she has crossed over, and she needs to go to the Light. That there are other people there she has known and loved and they will be there to help her.
Our souls are energy forms...and when we die our energy just moves out of our body. Where it goes from there and what it becomes is the subject of much intense debate. Obviously this little girl did not want to leave the house...what I believe is so with the folks that occupy our house. They loved it so much here, they stop in from time to time to check things out.
Rather than being trapped here...I feel the ones who come here come freely and at will. ;-)

[Laura S]

That is a cool story, and you are a really good story teller!! I like the house too, but am not sure I could ever live there. I saw a tv show recently about ghost hunters, and how they would set up in a house to get evidence. And my favorite tv show is Ghost Whisper. I like Carol N's idea about the psychic, that would be interesting!

[Jasfino]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/oldhouse003.jpg

Ok... here it is...

Clue... look up near the top left corner of the door. It helps if you can zoom in on the area. Anyone see her face?

[PLEASURE PASOFINO]

NOPE!!!!!!

[Terri]

ah, it looks like a reflection. Don't see a face

[Laura S]

I see a small face, like a 3/4 angle view. Mostly can see what would be their Left eye, nose and mouth.....

So, are you getting the house?

[pasohappy]

I see something, but not sure. Here is a story true story, happened to my sister in law's child. They were at Hertitage park in Calgary, There they have a old mansion redone. Sister In law wanted to go in and see it, as they got to the stairs her daughter started crying saying she didn't want to go, finally she settled down, and went in, as soon as they entered the house the daughter let go of her mom's hand and ran up the stairs leading to the top floor, mom ran after her saying where are you going, reply was I want to see my horsey, mom followed her down the hall where she entered a small room , inside was a old rocking horse! She was freaked out. !!!!

[Jasfino]

I have a new computer and havent yet figured out all the picture options yet... but if yes... that is right Laura. That is the face we saw. I can zoom in on it if I am in my picture manager and it shows up larger and so much clearer.. but I havent figured out how to save that image blown up yet...

To answer the question about whether or not we are getting it.... no.

Hubbys mom liked the older homes too. She wanted us to take her down to see it. She has always liked the ghost stories.. and haunted house tales. When we took her to the house.. she felt something was there. I asked her after she looked around in it for awhile what she thought about the place. She gave a strange thoughtful look and said it was if a heavy burden had been placed on her shoulders. About a month later she was diagnosed with spinal cancer and passed away not long afterward.

[Terri]

About a month later she was diagnosed with spinal cancer and passed away not long afterward.So are you saying that this whole story happen a couple of months ago?

[PASOFAN]

oohhh, I love ghost stories. I wish I had cable to watch all those cool investigation shows.. I miss x files too...

Cool cool house and story, I got chills too!!

[PASOFAN]

oohhh, I love ghost stories. I wish I had cable to watch all those cool investigation shows.. I miss x files too...

Cool cool house and story, I got chills too!!

[Jasfino]

All this took place late last summer...early fall.

I have been back to the house just once since then.. to retrieve a doll that I had left there in the house for the ghost.... :(

[Jasfino]

Worked at cropping the pic and now... can you see her any better?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/oldhouse003-Copy2-1.jpg

It almost looks like she is just as scared of us as we are her. It looks like she has her hand up to her mouth.

I am going to work on enlarging it... ;-)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/oldhouse003-Copy-Copy.jpg

Did it...

[reuben T]

Yah! I think ghosts are real. I have friends who've seen them, I've heard them speak, felt their presence on occasion. But if you believe in greek mythology as gospel truth then you can be free to believe that some essence from dead people sometimes hang around and spook live people. Because that's exactly where that idea came from. The Bible strickly prohibits the attempt to communicate with dead people because, "the dead know not anything" and those who think they're communicating with the dead are really talking to evil angels. Those demons like to hang out here and there pretending to be ghosts of dead people, in order to give "evidence" of the "truth" of that old lie he told when he said, "Ye shall not shurly die"
Oh yah, those UFO's are real too, they're what's called an "anti gravity machine" a tesla coil in the middle charging a big capacitor which forms the top and bottom shells, the electrical field created causes a cancelation of gravity causing the machine to fly. the same effect can be seen in some little models availible from science supply as toys. The military has built and used a few of them in secret, Lucifer and his helpers (called demons) also use them, but they've gone a lot further with the technology and use them under water, and also cancel out centrifical force which men havn't figured out how to do. instant right angle cornering and reversing.
There's a new book "The search for the immortal soul" or "in search of the immortal soul", the author did a tremendous amount of research for where the various ideas on it originated. a very informative book, I havn't read it but heard an hour of discussion about it with the author on a radio interview. (if someone wants one i could track it down.)
So yes, there are haunted houses, I know someone who lived in one for awile when she was young and met the "ghosts" a number of times, usually in the form of an evil looking man who'd vanish when confronted. But they're haunted by demons pretending to be the spirits of departed people, and when a person knows who they are and how to deal with them, they cese to be a mystery or scary.
When there's something like that, (or a doctrine taught by a religous system) or anything that needs clairifying, just research it throughly, very throughly, and don't come to any conclusion till all the evidence is in from every direction, and even then leave the door open for more info. Frequently the great bulk of evidence will end up pointing unmistakably in the opposite direction as the popular teaching leads. Knowing history as I do, I've heard flat out lies being stated as if they were fact in defence of popular practices or doctrines taught by most churches. So, be careful what ya believe, i see the world, and a good share of the religonists of the world, being decieved by a string of lies leading them right into the devil's trap.

[Jasfino]

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One last view of the scary room. Thats my brother on another visit to the old place.

Reuben... I believe you may be onto to something. I feel whatever there is evil. It pretended to be a helpless little girl... so that we would think oh.. how sad... we need to help her. I believe if we had bought the house... we would have been in for nothing but trouble. [/img]

Carol.... have you heard anything back yet about the pictures?

[Mellifluous]

That is an incredible old house - and it is in fairly good condition considering. I was expecting much worse, very restorable. I don't know why anyone would want to tear it down. So many people take cultural resources like that for granted. It is a shame that the interior was painted rather than left natural wood, but it still maintains it's basic character. There is so much left original, hard to find on some old houses! I am jealous of all of their matching 4 over 4 windows. That is what I have in my house, many have been replaced with modern windows and it looks silly.

I would jump on this house and give it some much needed TLC. You can fix it up, cleanse it and resell. Someone will love it!

[Minouri]

Just read this post from beginning to end. (Ugg, drat my college classes for making reading all the posts impossible.)

First, let me say you're a wonderful story teller. I was sipping my coffee on the edge of my chair the whole time.

Next, there is no amount of money that would make me move into that house. If I really thought something was there....I'd leave it for a braver soul than me. Buying isn't like renting. You buy something like that and you're stuck while you figure it out....hoping that whatever is there is a good spirit.

I've never seen, heard, or felt a spirit as far as I know but people used to swear that I had someone hanging around me. Mine was a stomach toucher and a neck breather. For more than 10 years whenever I would leave the room and leave a friend or boyfriend alone....I'd come back to a story of "something being there" and "wanting me (the visitor) to leave". Some described it as someone standing behind them...too close. Some felt a little shove on their stomach. I always thought the stomach thing was weird. Is my spirit short? lol Is that all he can reach?

A minister (woman) visited me once and said she couldn't believe that I didn't know what was there with me. She said my spirit was very possessive and wanted to push everyone else away from me. It was angry and jealous. I was more creeped out by her than whatever she thought she saw. I didn't know her well and certainly had not told her about my little friend.

A friend of mine came over one night for comfort when her grandmother was very sick. She said she felt something trying to push her out. I thought she was just worked up with grief. She said it wasn't a spirit you could see....but you could definately feel it and the message to leave was pretty clear.

The last time I spoke about the "ghost" was at my old house in Woonsocket. My friend Deb was over and we were watching movies and the topic of ghosts came up. I told her this whole story and we were laughing about it.

She said, "Ghosts don't follow you from house to house and if you really had a ghost it would do something that YOU could see."

At that very moment the music box beside her started playing music.

We both jumped and I started laughing my butt off. She was putting on her shoes and going home.

I believe the music box was a coincidence...but man, what a good one.

Tony and his kids have lived with me for a year. Before that I stayed with them for almost 3. None of them have heard or felt or seen anything. You'd think if it were jealous...it wouldn't like Tony.

The only creepy thing I've ever seen is that sometimes my dogs bark at empty corners of the house. I hate when they do that.

But would I buy a house knowing that something was in there trying to contact me? NO NO NO...lol

Who had the psychic friend? I'd love to know what stomach touching means. It happens on men and women.

[Terri]

The only creepy thing I've ever seen is that sometimes my dogs bark at empty corners of the house. I hate when they do that.

My dog does that too, he also barks at empty corners of the yard and at the moon and at trees and at..... I think he is just stupid.

But interesting story Ruth. Yes, there are all kinds of Spirits out there. The only one safe to communicate with is God's Holy Spirit, through the power of prayer. Other than that, we are ill equipped to handle a world we really know nothing about.

[Carol Nelson]

No, Jaz...I haven't heard back from either of my friends...on their impressions of the house photo. Which in itself is kinda weird because they both contact me frequently. Maybe THAT means something too... :-?

In all defense of the "OtherWorld" let me say that NOT every spirit that inhabits a place here on earth or attaches itself to a human (which yes, they can do) is evil. They are people just like you or me who have not moved on to a higher level for some reason. They have personalities (some say that we retain our same personas that we have here in this world...nothing changes...we just exchange our physical bodies for a spirit body).
They may have experienced a rough passing...either through extreme illness or murder or suicide. They may not know they're dead (and that is where you can help them by guiding them to the Light). They may be attached here by good times...they enjoyed life on this earth so much that they don't want to leave. That is the case, I believe, with who is coming and going in our house. This once was the neighborhood "gathering place"...the people who lived here were well off and had regular parties where they would get together and play dominos and cards. The children would play outside in big groups. We still on occasion "hear" parties going on around the place.
Sometimes the spirit is attached to a person by love...Ruthie, I think that may be the case with your spirit...it may be someone from a past life who loved you very much...(whoops, here we get into the subject of reincarnation...which opens another whole can of worms)...or it may be an over-zealous guide...you know you can tell it to just "back off"...treat your entity like it were just another human being...tell it you appreciate it trying to protect you but it's really getting in the way sometimes. ;-)

I think the spirit in Jaz's house (actually there may be more than one) is simply a little girl looking for her parents. Which is sad really. And which happens frequently with child spirits. They may be mischevious or mournful but rarely are malovent. You may not truly know how much the little doll meant to that little girl, Jaz.

And want to include here that those from the Spirit World cannot hurt us...other than scarin' the everlovin' bejeezuz out of us. Hollywood has built that idea, but it has rarely been proven to be true over the ages. I believe that is why most of us never see or experience contact from our loved ones...because they KNOW that us seeing them would scare us to death, and they LOVE us...they don't WANT us to be scared of them...so they don't bother us.

[AliceG]

My brother-in-law has a ghost girl in his house. They built the house new. There was no structure there before they started, but it's in the va mountains in an area that is just starting to be developed, so who knows what was there earlier.

Anyway, they started seeing this little girl in their house, kind of blue colored...all over, body & clothing, a blue haze. The whole family who lives there has seen her. They talked to their minister about it, he said just ignore her and she will eventually leave. So they do. And she rarely makes an appearance.

But, they had one incident that scared a child. A friend was visiting and her young child was playing alone in the playroom (kids who lived there were at school). Suddenly, the little kid starts screaming and crying and runs from the room. Says "I don't want to play with the little girl". My sister in law has to explain to her friend what's up. Friend freaks out and leaves.

As far as I know, blue girl hasn't been back. But, I don't really know because they don't like to talk about her in case it would 'invite her back'.

[Moniece Dickerson]

Love the story and I love those old homes but i'm glad for you all that you did not buy it.Thank you for sharing!!Your friend,Moniece

[Mellifluous]

When I lived with my mom, I had an appy named PJ. I would ride him all over the place and go exploring. It is funny looking back on it. We were out and about in the truck up there this past weekend and I realized that I rode that poor horse all over the place. I probably rode him for 20+miles a day in the summer.

I think I have shared this before, but just in case...

Anyway, on one of my trips, PJ and I stumbled on an old farmstead off of a dirt road. There was an old house and some outbuildings. I tried to get PJ to go up to the house but he would not. He was starting to get panicky (out of character for him, he was a plug). I tied him to a tree and went to check out the house. The house was empty with the exception of a large pile of old shoes in each room. The piles were huge, probably about 2-3 foot high and 6-8 foot around. There were a lot of shoes and they were really old. There were no modern tennis shoes or anything like that. I thought it was odd because most people that lived in that area would not have had the means to own so many shoes. It was really strange. The whole house felt strange, it could have been me being weirded out by the shoe piles. It was also unnerving to hear PJ outside calling non-stop and dancing around where he was tied.

I decided to split. PJ and I never rode there again. I did end up going back by there some time later when we were checking on my mom's property that is in the area. All of the shoes were gone.

[Terri]

Just to clarify my position. I do not believe these spirits can harm us physically nor am I afraid of them (not 1/2 as much as the garden snakes anyway). I do believe they pose spiritual dangers. That danger is that they point away from the truth of the gospel towards other theories. I know many of you disagree with that, and I am primarly speaking to Christains such as Jas. The bible teaches that Satan often poses as a angel of light to fool us. These spirits can take many forms from predator preists, legalistic and judgemental ministers and benevolent spirits. But all of these things point away from the gospel and truth, and that is why I believe they are dangerous. I know Carol you strongely disagree with me and I respect you position. I just want to speak from Christian point of view for others who share this view to consider.

[paintedhorizon]

This is why I said what I said.

Is it haunted?? The old man looked at me and said No... but you will be ...if you buy the place.

YOU will be haunted, not the house, YOU.


The man turns to look at us and says in his most serious voice... "Yes... yes it is." We all look around at each other and I ask him.. Really? What have you seen? What makes you say that? He says.. Its a little girl.. My wife has actually saw her.
I ask him to bring his wife with him next time and he looked at me and said...She's gone. She left me while we were still living here in the house. I came home from work one day and she had packed up the kids .. just gone.


No explanation as to why, but sounds like she left because of this ghost. The man is now all alone.

This time the voice is a mans.. and it is growling like... saying "It's a ghost...leave

There’s a warning right there.

There are happy ghosts, playful ghosts, evil ghosts, and I say ghosts lightly.

You also have this dread feeling. Listen to your instinct.

[Carol Nelson]

Oh Terri...but there you are lumping all spirits together as though they are all the same thing...I don't believe you can call them all the same any more than you can call all of us the same. Sure you will find spirits that seek to mislead, to misrepresent and to cause havoc. But many are just people just like us that have passed. You know, you have angels and you have guides and you can ask them to surround you with the Light of God's Love and you will be safe.
I sometimes laugh and say, I have SOOO many people over there that have passed and are taking care of me that I don't have to worry about evil spirits.
However though, Jaz, I will admit that I did not get a warm feeling when I looked at the photos of the house...rather I did get a feeling of foreboding...particularly when I looked at the photos of the little girl's bedroom. I feel she spent her last hours there and that was the last vision she saw when her eyes dimmed...those walls. She isn't evil though...just very lost and sad...

[Jasfino]

Painted horizon wrote...

This is why I said what I said.

Quote:
Is it haunted?? The old man looked at me and said No... but you will be ...if you buy the place.


YOU will be haunted, not the house, YOU.


I believe just like you paintedhorizon . I am already haunted by it and didnt even own it. What might happen if I lived there .. I am not sure I could deal with. Part of me is curious.. and the other is saying dont mess around with this... just like Terri warns.

After hubbys mother became ill last yr, we pretty much forgot about the house for awhile. When I say forgot... thats not what I mean actually because it was never far from our minds. This spring when hubby called about it again, the realtor told him an offer was pending. So it looks like someone else is going to experience something totally out of the ordinary there.

Mel wrote...
That is an incredible old house - and it is in fairly good condition considering. I was expecting much worse, very restorable. I don't know why anyone would want to tear it down

The house takes a great pic... but it really is in bad repair. Just about every window is broken and needs replacing, the front porch is rotten and needs to be replaced, the roof needs replacing and under it are wooden shingles ... so they would have to come off to do it right. On the inside, the wood is great.. but the paint would need to come off.. that would be a nightmare to strip every wall... ( but I would try... :D ) There is mold growing on all the walls. There is some water standing in the cellar. The bathroom floor is falling in.. busted pipes.. from where noone is living there. There is no kitchen to speak of. The good thing about it is it has the original old pine flooring under the carpet. That would look awesome redone.

I cant beleive anyone would want to tear it down either Mel becuase it is so historical. We found out to that the man that owns the land behind it mentioned buying it and tearing down the house.. just to get the lot that it sits on. That made me mad!

So hubbys dream was not a joke. Two people have mentioned tearing it down.. and he said he felt the little girl wanted him to buy it because she knew he would save it.

[Mellifluous]

I just showed the pics to our Historic Preservation Planner - she is like me, she loves it!

If I bought it, I would not even attempt to strip the paint off of the walls. I have known many many many people that have tried and failed. Best to pick your fresh paint colors and move on. You could probably just get new glass cut for the window panes that are broken and refurbish the original windows. I wish that whoever restored my house had done that.

I really have a soft spot for old houses. There is so much history and warmth with them. It is nice to see something that has been neglected and forgotten become a real gem.

I hope that whoever buys this place does right by it. I have a feeling that if they tear it down, they will be in for a haunting.

[Jasfino]

Mel wrote..

I just showed the pics to our Historic Preservation Planner - she is like me, she loves it!


Be careful Mel!! This house has a way of drawing you in... 8-) You sound an awful lot like hubby... ;-)

[Jasfino]

Alice wrote...

My brother-in-law has a ghost girl in his house. They built the house new. There was no structure there before they started, but it's in the va mountains in an area that is just starting to be developed, so who knows what was there earlier.

Anyway, they started seeing this little girl in their house, kind of blue colored...all over, body & clothing, a blue haze. The whole family who lives there has seen her

That sounds like the script to Amityville. The little girl would see the pig in her room and talk to it and play with it. It turned out that there was Indian lore somehow involved with black magic yrs before in historical accounts of that area. So I guess the land was actually haunted instead of the house. I cant remember exactly what it was but your story brought that to mind.

[Terri]

Oh Terri...but there you are lumping all spirits together as though they are all the same thing...I don't believe you can call them all the same any more than you can call all of us the same. Sure you will find spirits that seek to mislead, to misrepresent and to cause havoc. But many are just people just like us that have passed. You know, you have angels and you have guides and you can ask them to surround you with the Light of God's Love and you will be safe.

That maybe true, but I have no way of discerning spirits other than relying on my "feelings" and our feelings are notoriously unreliable. As Christians we are warned by God's word not to play with these spirits as many seek to decieve and lure us away from God's truth. Often the best deceptions are 90% truth and "sound" and "feel" true. I have the scriptures to guide me and the Lord's hand to hold on to and He directs His angels to guard me. I need no other. Nor would I hope to serve as a guide to a spirit that can't find its way home - I believe this is beyond my abilities. Heck, I have a hard enough time getting my kids to listen to me. I know Carol you and I disagree on these points and that is okay. I understand your beliefs, I disagree with them, but I respect them. My reasons for posting this is not to convince you otherwise, I don't believe I can, but to speak to Jas who has identified herself as a fellow Christian and encourage her in a decision she has already made.

[Carol Nelson]

Just find it necessary to interject here that I do think of myself as a Christian also...I have a deep personal relationship with my God. Just in my 53 years of life I've learned that there is no true black and white but many, many, many shades of gray...and keeping an open mind about things is a necessity as you travel through this life. I've learned so much more since I've become more open-minded about the possibility that everything is not always as it appears in our 3-D world. ;-)

Of course, Terri...we both are allowed to have our own personal beliefs...and can still respect each other because of or in spite of them. :D

[Mellifluous]

I guess it all depends on your brand of christianity as to what you believe about spirits.

By the way, Discover magazine has a great article about the human soul this month. :D

[Terri]

everything is not always as it appears in our 3-D world.

Of course, Terri...we both are allowed to have our own personal beliefs...and can still respect each other because of or in spite of them.

I agree with you on both these points. I just find it best and safest to always follow scriptural teachings, which warns against communicating with the dead. However, we are not taught to be afraid of spirits. In fact we are told "He who is in us is greater than he who is in the world". So Jen if you truly wanted the house, and it is a beautiful house with lots of potential. Then you should not have been fearful, but merely asked God to clear it of spirits that might threaten your spiritual and mental health.

[PLEASURE PASOFINO]

Just find it necessary to interject here that I do think of myself as a Christian also...I have a deep personal relationship with my God. Just in my 53 years of life I've learned that there is no true black and white but many, many, many shades of gray...and keeping an open mind about things is a necessity as you travel through this life. I've learned so much more since I've become more open-minded about the possibility that everything is not always as it appears in our 3-D world. ;-)

Of course, Terri...we both are allowed to have our own personal beliefs...and can still respect each other because of or in spite of them. :D


My MAMA always told me, never discuss, RELIGION, POLITICS and what else :confused ............

But, I agreed....... the older I get the more I am getting to find out that there are just too many things in the GRAY and will remain in the GRAY till the end of my existing.

By no means, the above said will interferred with my :angel FAITH!!!!!! my faith gets stronger everyday more........ but I also get wiser and my degree of ATOLERANCE has also become wider, wich inmy case is a big+.......

So, going back to MAMA!!!!!!!!!!!! RELEGION, POLITICS and :confused
is a TABU......... But I find the need to add......... THAT I DO RESPECT everyone and everyones opinion.


Saludos

[Terri]

It was truly NOT my intention to inject religous dogma here or start a religious war. Carol stated her spiritual view point, I stated mine, and a few other people stated theirs. All was done respectfully. That is called discussion. And you know I think we are doing a good job. Carol you are a fine lady, and just cause we disagree about this does not mean I have revised my opinion of you (or your beautiful red horse :D ) I hope you can say the same (my horse is black)

[Minouri]

What an interesting thread. I like the fact that you can have different beliefs and still listen to the ideas of others.

I'm Catholic. I haven't been taught much of anything about ghosts at church, but I do believe in angels.

I think the IDEA of ghosts is fascinating....but the reality (if I were ever faced with it) would scare the patootie out of me.

I'd imagine there are as many types of ghosts as there are people.

I don't really believe any of them can cross over and hurt someone here, but I do think a presence can be felt.

When my sister first died at age 34 I used to imagine her playing with my hair just as she had when I was younger and used to lay across her lap. Did she do it or did I just miss her so much that I pictured it so vividly....I'll never know. But I'd like to think she was allowed to visit me a few times before fully moving on. I never considered that e xperience a "ghost" though. I guess I see that like an angel. A guardian angel.

[Jasfino]

Minouri wrote..
What an interesting thread. I like the fact that you can have different beliefs and still listen to the ideas of others.


Your right. I am a catholic too but I always welcome anyone else's beliefs/thoughts on whatever we may be discussing. Thats what makes each of us here unique.. and different. It would be a boring world if everyone thought the same thoughts about everything.

I know that priests go in homes to bless the house.. sometimes exorcising (spelling) evil spirits. One of my catholic relatives was telling about saints that let their presence be known through certain smells permeating the room such as roses. Bad/evil spirits sometimes manifest themselves through bad smells as well.

I do believe in good and evil spirits. I wont be buying the house...but am still curious as to what is there.

Caliber wrote..

But, I agreed....... the older I get the more I am getting to find out that there are just too many things in the GRAY and will remain in the GRAY till the end of my existing.



I am finding that to be true.. ;-)

[motorgypsy]

A scientific analysis - sortof -

We do come into this world "hard wired" with a lot of senses that we don't recognize. These senses pick up things that our normal conscious senses do not. I think it's very wise to listen to them and that the combination of your conscious and unconscious senses plus your life experience become what we call intuition. It's not always right but you better believe I pay attention to it.

We also come hardwired with certain positive and negative perceptions. We fear falling. We fear the dark. We learn odors that mean good things and that mean bad things well before we can talk. The same thing with sounds. We learn to fear certain things from our parents when we are still infants because we will fear what they fear until we reach the age of independence and experimentation. Then we may lose some of the fears but others will remain that we are unaware of.

If something seems wrong with the house to you regardless of the reason you're very wise to reject it because you couldn't be happy living there. Women in particular are very sensitive to their home and any man who tries to get a woman to live in a home she doesn't feel comfortable in is an idiot because one of the main roles of a man is making his lady feel safe - and he sure won't do that in a home she hates. She won't stay. It's that simple.

We're all made of matter and energy. Can that energy remain intact when the organism no longer "works" and the chemicals in it break up into little pieces? Good question. Everything does get used over and over and over. There's very little new on the planet - a few meteorites and moon rocks. The water's all reused, the carbon, oxygen and so on. We do get incoming energy from the sun and we lose energy into the universe so for all we know our "soul or essense" may go to another planet or galaxy or just recycle on earth. Or we may come back as many many people - a little here and a little there - as new living things are born. It is no wonder ancient societies worshiped the sun though. It really is the source of life since plants use it to make food. No sun, almost no life. There are a few things that live at the volcanic vents in the ocean that can reproduce using chemcal synthesis - but not enough to keep the consumers going that's for sure.

Lots of questions and we all search for answers in our own way. To quote one professor - Science tells you how. Religion tells you why. They operate on an entirely different and independent plane

[Carol Nelson]

A beautiful analysis, MG's.

Science...Religion...two very different concepts...yet they are coming together more and more as science is starting to realize there is some relevance in religious history...and religion is starting to realize that there is some validity to scientific reasoning...
Truth...that is what we are all looking for in the end....and so far...no one has really come back to tell us what the truth is as far as where we go and what we become after this vessel wears out. It's a matter of faith, based on knowledge...and I just think we need to strive to learn as much as we can in this life about what comes after this. The one thing we all have to go through is the one thing we fear the most. I once learned a long time ago...confront your fears...and they go away...knowledge is freedom from fear.
Don't be afraid to question...God will not love you less for that.

[Jasfino]

Thanks everyone for listening to my story. I've gotten alot of wonderful replies... found out others here have had similiar, unexplained experiences.. and have alot to ponder over.

It would make a good book.... :D

[Terri]

Don't be afraid to question...God will not love you less for that.
So true!!! Never be afraid to question, seach and wonder. The bible is full of people who have questioned God, railed against him, despaired ....etc and God and loved them none the less.

Now at the risk of being vilified I would like to respond to this comment.
no one has really come back to tell us what the truth is as far as where we go and what we become after this vessel wears out.
One has died and risen from the dead. He has told us "In my Father's house there are many rooms, if it were not so I would have told you, I am going there to prepare a place for you"

Okay now you can rail agains me for interjecting "religion" I am only responding to Carol's comment from my point of view. Now I am off to CT. Have a great day!

[motorgypsy]

If you really want to get far out consider this - is there anything in any of the major religions that indicates that life did not exist in another location, perhaps in another galaxy, long ago?

We are now considering the biogenesis of Mars -making changes to Mars so that humans can live there. Who is to say that this hasn't happened before. That the distances and times were so great that only the DNA could be sent to the new location, DNA that little by little would give us the life forms now in existence on this planet - along with information that would be passed on to the intelligent life once it had matured to the point where it would be useful to them.

Understand I'm not espousing this idea nor saying I believe it happened, just raising it for consideration. An omnipotent creator can do all things. I just wonder????? And if our essense can "hold together" after our physical shell no longer functions - can it travel to other planets and galaxies or even to parallel universes??? I wonder???

[Carol Nelson]

It would not have been in the Bible because the Bible authors could not envision such a concept. Remember, the America's did not even exist at that time. Much less people on a different planet.

[Jasfino]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/oldhouse042.jpg

Here is a far away view of the house. The red brick house next to it is the one that the old man lives in. He bought the land from the last living family member in the 60's and built there.

[motorgypsy]

But Carol the bible - at least the beginnings, not the history part, was said to have been dictated to humans by God, not written by humans, so they very well could have come from other planets or galaxies. The original creation account for example coincides very much with what science says happened. When you read it, it sounds as though it is dictated to someone by someone who watched it happen. And then of course was passed on orally for many generations and finally written. It could have been watched from far away rather than from some alternate dimension.

In the religion courses I took I really don't remember anything about the scrolls that contained the genesis - how old they were and who they came from since a lot more research I think is done on the history part of the Old Testament. But in my astronomy classes I was very much struck by the fact that the genesis really sounds like a history of the formation of the planet from the giant cloud of gas onto the condensation of steam into water and so on and it's for sure no people were here then unless they were in space ships ????

[Jasfino]

:lol: I guess ya'll will find it comforting that I believe in Aliens too.... :D

But... I have never had any close encounters to speak of.... yet....lol ..but my brother has... if anyone wants to here that story... :shock:

[Terri]

I was very much struck by the fact that the genesis really sounds like a history of the formation of the planet from the giant cloud of gas onto the condensation of steam into water and so on and it's for sure no people were here then unless they were in space ships ????

Space ships? Or maybe the creation was just witnessed by the creator?

[JennLM]

This had me creeped out and all of a sudden yesterday the phone rang and static was left on the answering machine.

1 problem. We have no landline. I picked up the phone, no dial tone. Troy got home and checked the other line in the spare bedroom, it was dead too. :shock:

[Carol Nelson]

Oh dear...I simply refuse to get into a debate on the existance of aliens... :lol:

While I do believe of course, that there are other life forms on other planets...whether or not they have the ability to GET HERE...I'm not convinced of yet...

Jenn...it appears somebody was out to let you know they were there! ;-)

[JennLM]

Carol, I had issues with our last house. Since we emoved the animals are happier, I am happier but the darned house won't sell. Day 1 we moved in and the bed would shake, we would hear voices in the bedroom and I could not (along with lots of other reasons) get out of it soon enough when an opportunity presented itself.

This Thread had me thinking alot about dearly departed ones, so maybe that was the reason. Still creeped me out.

[Mellifluous]

I need those 4 over 4 windows in that house! Too bad it is not close to me. I wonder if houses could inherit hauntings from their replacement parts that came from haunted houses????? :confused

I have a really cool old mantle from a local house that was torn down. I am replacing my ugly one in the office/future dining room with it. I wonder if it has any heebee jeebies hanging out in it.

Oh, and on the alien thing. I firmly believe that their is life out there. I mean, heck don't any of you watch Stargate?! :razz:

[Jasfino]

need those 4 over 4 windows in that house! Too bad it is not close to me. I wonder if houses could inherit hauntings from their replacement parts that came from haunted houses?????


Those windows are great arent they? Thats the one thing that I liked about the house.

I have heard that ghosts can attatch themselves to objects. There is only one time I have ever thought I had experienced anything like that. Hubby and I collect antiques. We were at a flea market one afternoon when I came upon this really old metal headed doll. It was from around the turn of the century and really in poor condition. Its body was made of cloth and falling apart. Hubby talked the guy down on it and we left thinking we had gotten a bargain.

I took it home and placed in a cabinet with some of my other dolls. One thing I like about collecting antique dolls is wondering who the doll belonged to.. if it could talk to me.. what would it tell me about little girl that owned it that onced lived so long ago. Anyway.. I felt something about this doll didnt seem right.. or happy. One night I was walking past my doll cabinet on the way to bed.. when I thought I smelled smoke. I quickly turned to look back at the kitchen.. and everything was ok in there. I looked around for a few minutes and stayed up.. thinking something might be on fire.. and then figured I just imagined it. Then another night a few months later.. the same thing scenario. I was walking past the doll cabinet... late at night.. and there was that smell of fire. I quickly glanced at the metal head doll that was sitting there staring back out of the glass at me. Somehow I began to associate this doll with that fire smell. It started creeping me out bad. So I told hubby that doll had to go.. and it had to go soon.

The next week at a local flea market.. a man came by hubbys booth. He was thanking hubby as he left .... talking about the great bargain he had gotten on that old metal headed doll.... ;-)

Oh... and after the doll left... it never happened again. I have often wondered if that doll belonged to a little girl who died in a fire.

[Jasfino]

Jenn wrote....

This had me creeped out and all of a sudden yesterday the phone rang and static was left on the answering machine.

1 problem. We have no landline. I picked up the phone, no dial tone. Troy got home and checked the other line in the spare bedroom, it was dead too. ..

Could it have been an electrial surge that made your phone ring and your answering machine come on? I've had my phone ring alot during bad storms .
:oops: I hope my ghost story isnt responsible for it..my ghost talking to your ghost kind of thing..lol

[JennLM]

We have no landline. We had it shut off months ago because I used my cell much more. No dial tone. I guess it could have been a power surge except this is not an electrical phone. We got just a regular old fashioned one in case power ever went out we could still use it. We found out once before if you have an electric type phone and power goes out, you are SOL.

This new house is free from spookies I am happy to say. The cats would always fight in the old house, here with less room, they are almost friends. Sleeping near each other all the time. The dogs stopped barking up in corners of the room. I sleep much better at night knowing my bed won't be moving around on us.

[Jasfino]

One more pic for Carol....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/Jasfino/oldhouse043.jpg

Can anyone see the little girl in the upstairs window??

[PLEASURE PASOFINO]

no. on which window?

[JennLM]

top, second from left. Kinda looks like a reflection except none of the top ones have one except that one.

[Jasfino]

It's the little girl.. See her head in the middle of the window pane.. and then her arm?

[Carol Nelson]

Oh my gosh....should I post the reply from my psychic friend, Jaz???

[Jasfino]

Yes.. Carol.... I think you should...

[JennLM]

Yes Carol yessssssssss!

[Carol Nelson]

Here is what a psychic friend of mine said about the photo of the house...now I had not told her a thing about it other than send her the photo and told her that a girl from the discussion board had asked for her impressions:

Ok, when I first asked about buying it, the answer was no. There is a lean to it.
More importantly, you can SEE which side is preferred by the spirits. Look to the left of the door and upstairs and I actually was able to see a spirit in the top window. Yes, I know it is weird but you asked.

Jaz just informed me that that is the little girl's bedroom window... :-?

Another thing I thought was unusual is that she mispelled "lien" meaning that the house had a lien on it...but the funny thing about that is there actually is a lean-to on the house....if you look at the side view of the house showing the little porch-like addition to the back...which isn't visible in the first photo. :shock: ;-)

[Jasfino]

Carol.. thanks so much for your help. Hubby just came in and I told him what your friend had said. It gives us the chills... :shock:

There is alot of other stuff that happened there at the house.. not just to my hubby but to other people as well. They just sound too far out and my hubby thinks people will think he is crazy.

That upstairs room to the left of the porch is the little girls room. That makes three people that had never met each other before... the former owner, hubby, and the psychic... that all agree... thats where the ghost is.

[Carol Nelson]

Ok...will quick tell you a little bit about my friend's intuition when she came to our house. Then I'm going to take a nap...this foal watch and all this ghost talk has me exhausted!! :lol:

A little background...the people who lived in our house before us had a daughter that was special needs...she had some problems mentally. She lived with them for most of her adult life...and she lived in a little outbuilding just outside of the main house. It was carpeted with a bathroom and a bed and a few other sparse bits of furniture. We always thought it unusual because instead of a lock on the inside of the door, there was a lock on the outside.
Shortly before we'd moved here I heard they had had to institutionalize her and she had passed away shortly after that. (That is who I believe the woman/girl was that Doug woke up and saw descending the stairway...)
(from a previous post several months ago) ;-)

My friend sat here in my office and she told me about a young girl who had lived here in the house. I had told her nothing about the previous owners. What really got me is that she said, "She is telling me...'They kept me here.'" I got cold chills...and that is when I told her about the little room with the lock on the outside.... :shock:

[Jasfino]

"She is telling me...'They kept me here.'"

What are the chances that anyone would have said the word "kept" other than say.. I lived.. or stayed here. That wasnt a coincidence.

[motorgypsy]

The telephone thing isn't really that strange though because the phone company can and will call you even if you have no landline. In fact most houses today with no landline even have a dial tone. I've always suspected that telemarketers can get to you even if your phone is disconnected!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[moonrize]

All houses that have landlines are now required to be able to dial 911 in case of an emergency, even if the line is turned off by the owner.