reuben T
05-22-2007, 06:21 AM
A pastor drove into a large city to attend a meeting. He had to park at a fenced in pay lot and catch a bus to the meeting site. After the meeting he got on a bus and told the drvier where to let him off at, but when the driver told him he was at the right place and he got off, he wasn't anywhere near the car lot and didn't know where he was. Sence it was late and the last bus through was the one he got off of, he just had to walk, somewhere. He seemed to be in a factory shipping yard and a truck came by, but the driver wouldn't stop. Then two drunk men come along and he tried to get them to tell him which way to go, but instead they started to force him to go with them. But just about then a car turned into the lot and shined it's head lights on them, and the drunk men ran off. The car drove up and stopped, a young man in it said "get in and I'll take you to your car" then he said "a murder happened here last night, those men are wicked" He told the pastor where he was and how far it was to his car, and it was quite a ways, but it's only took a few minutes to go all that far, (the first strange thing) Then the pastor remembered it was late and the lot attendent would be gone and the fenced parking lot locked up. But the young man said. "no problem, there's a hole in the back side of the fence we can drive through" He drove through the hole and up to the pastors car. the pastor got out and pulled out his keys to unlock his car, and then turned back to thank the young man for his help, but there was no one there. young man and car as well had vanished into thin air.
He ran around and looked all over the place, but nothing. So he started his car and drove out the hole in the chainlink fence at the back side of the lot and went to his hotel. The next day he returned to the same parking lot and looked for the hole, but there was none, and no sign of there ever having been one. He asked the lot attendant about the hole in the fence, insisted there was one there last night and he'd driven through it. but the attendant thought he was crazy, he said there's never been a hole there.
I heard that story from the man it happened to.
another simular one from another country.
A lady decided to take some good books, (Bibles and related books) to a prison, so she took several boxes of them, (heavy) and got a bus to take her to the prison. But the bus dropped her off something like 2 miles from the prison, much too far to carry several heavy boxes. So she thought, what do I do now? don't know. So she asked God to help her. Soon a young man drove by and she waved him down, asked him for a ride to the prison. He said "get in, I'll take you" he dropped her and the books off at the front door, then she looked away for a moment as she set the last box out, then turned back to try to pay for the ride, car and all had vanished into thin air.
A man I know, named Alvar (used to know, he passed away from old age) told us about a wierd occurance when he was 5 years old. (cir. 1915) They lived on the mountan above Grass Valley CA. Two tramps came walking down the road, they split and one went to the neighbors house and one came to their house, he asked for a bite to eat.
(In those days tramps were very commen. Usually dirty homeless men who'd travel the countryside, beg a meal here and there, and sneak rides on trains.) Anyway, Al's mother always entertained them and gave them a good meal. This time Al's mamma finished the meal with a nice piece of apple pie. Al's habit was to look each tramp over carefully and his little dog would sniff around him and eye him over real good too. But this man was different, He was very clean, He had patched clothing, but the patches were sewn with very tiny super neat stiches, instead of the usual holes and roughly done patches on most tramps clothing. Al's little dog acted different too. Then he turned and looked at Al, and Al told us that look felt like it was looking right through him and knew all about him, but at the same time it was so full of love as to make Al feel very comfortable with him.
After the meal he left, rejoined his companion at the road and went on down the road toward Grass Valley.
The next morning an old miner who lived down the road came hurrying up to talk to Al's father, (who was kind of a community spiritual leader)
And told him, "Two tramps spent the night with me, they told me they were going down to grass valley to look for gold. but I said, 'it's all been mined from there long ago, the only gold left is deep underground.'
Then they said 'Oh no, we're looking for the gold that walks around on top the ground'. And they said their names were Enoch and Elijah."
The two men who the bible tells us didn't die but were taken to heaven instead.
Al told us when he gets to heaven he's going to find Enoch and Elijah and ask them, "which one of you had a piece of apple pie at my house?"
Remember now! the popular idea of some entity called a soul that lives on after someone dies is strickly greek mithology which got mixed up with church doctrines during the dark ages, and they support it with a few marginal phrases that only poorly support the idea. The bible teaches plainly (by checking out everything it says on the subject) that when a person dies they go to sleep and know nothing till some future time when a resurection is supposed to happen. (actually according to Rev. 20. 2 resurections 1000 years apart, first one good people come up and go to heaven, second one bad people come up, are judged, and then burned up along with the earth as it's melted down prior to being recreated, thereafter to become home of good people.) It seems to be a propagation of the devil's first lie to Eve when he said, "Ye shall not shurly die, but shall become as god's, knowing good (heaven) and evil (he!!)." Besides, almost all the terminology used to describe the fate of the wicked is "cease to exist" terminology. In order to get a balanced view, the few "forever" terms used in connection to it have to be referring to the results rather than the duration.
Then there's presented the angels, seperate beings from humans, good ones under God's command who help people, and bad one's who rebelled against God and followed lucifer, who influence people to do bad things, and who will also meet their end when the earth melts down. They're the ones who seem to be responsible for most of the real ghosts that people run into, usually pretending to be the spirits of dead people, and sometimes even doing good things.
Research? yep, we done a whole lot of it. When it comes to religion and such, don't take any man's word for anything. And come to no conclusions till all the evidence on all sides is considered and where it all comes from. There's just too many lies and myths floating around being taught as solid truth by even some very good honest men.
He ran around and looked all over the place, but nothing. So he started his car and drove out the hole in the chainlink fence at the back side of the lot and went to his hotel. The next day he returned to the same parking lot and looked for the hole, but there was none, and no sign of there ever having been one. He asked the lot attendant about the hole in the fence, insisted there was one there last night and he'd driven through it. but the attendant thought he was crazy, he said there's never been a hole there.
I heard that story from the man it happened to.
another simular one from another country.
A lady decided to take some good books, (Bibles and related books) to a prison, so she took several boxes of them, (heavy) and got a bus to take her to the prison. But the bus dropped her off something like 2 miles from the prison, much too far to carry several heavy boxes. So she thought, what do I do now? don't know. So she asked God to help her. Soon a young man drove by and she waved him down, asked him for a ride to the prison. He said "get in, I'll take you" he dropped her and the books off at the front door, then she looked away for a moment as she set the last box out, then turned back to try to pay for the ride, car and all had vanished into thin air.
A man I know, named Alvar (used to know, he passed away from old age) told us about a wierd occurance when he was 5 years old. (cir. 1915) They lived on the mountan above Grass Valley CA. Two tramps came walking down the road, they split and one went to the neighbors house and one came to their house, he asked for a bite to eat.
(In those days tramps were very commen. Usually dirty homeless men who'd travel the countryside, beg a meal here and there, and sneak rides on trains.) Anyway, Al's mother always entertained them and gave them a good meal. This time Al's mamma finished the meal with a nice piece of apple pie. Al's habit was to look each tramp over carefully and his little dog would sniff around him and eye him over real good too. But this man was different, He was very clean, He had patched clothing, but the patches were sewn with very tiny super neat stiches, instead of the usual holes and roughly done patches on most tramps clothing. Al's little dog acted different too. Then he turned and looked at Al, and Al told us that look felt like it was looking right through him and knew all about him, but at the same time it was so full of love as to make Al feel very comfortable with him.
After the meal he left, rejoined his companion at the road and went on down the road toward Grass Valley.
The next morning an old miner who lived down the road came hurrying up to talk to Al's father, (who was kind of a community spiritual leader)
And told him, "Two tramps spent the night with me, they told me they were going down to grass valley to look for gold. but I said, 'it's all been mined from there long ago, the only gold left is deep underground.'
Then they said 'Oh no, we're looking for the gold that walks around on top the ground'. And they said their names were Enoch and Elijah."
The two men who the bible tells us didn't die but were taken to heaven instead.
Al told us when he gets to heaven he's going to find Enoch and Elijah and ask them, "which one of you had a piece of apple pie at my house?"
Remember now! the popular idea of some entity called a soul that lives on after someone dies is strickly greek mithology which got mixed up with church doctrines during the dark ages, and they support it with a few marginal phrases that only poorly support the idea. The bible teaches plainly (by checking out everything it says on the subject) that when a person dies they go to sleep and know nothing till some future time when a resurection is supposed to happen. (actually according to Rev. 20. 2 resurections 1000 years apart, first one good people come up and go to heaven, second one bad people come up, are judged, and then burned up along with the earth as it's melted down prior to being recreated, thereafter to become home of good people.) It seems to be a propagation of the devil's first lie to Eve when he said, "Ye shall not shurly die, but shall become as god's, knowing good (heaven) and evil (he!!)." Besides, almost all the terminology used to describe the fate of the wicked is "cease to exist" terminology. In order to get a balanced view, the few "forever" terms used in connection to it have to be referring to the results rather than the duration.
Then there's presented the angels, seperate beings from humans, good ones under God's command who help people, and bad one's who rebelled against God and followed lucifer, who influence people to do bad things, and who will also meet their end when the earth melts down. They're the ones who seem to be responsible for most of the real ghosts that people run into, usually pretending to be the spirits of dead people, and sometimes even doing good things.
Research? yep, we done a whole lot of it. When it comes to religion and such, don't take any man's word for anything. And come to no conclusions till all the evidence on all sides is considered and where it all comes from. There's just too many lies and myths floating around being taught as solid truth by even some very good honest men.